Was riding with Gordy Bubolz and Tim Keepers tonight......Tim was throwing these crazy looking OA 180's and Id like to try one, any tips? <BR> <BR>ps vid soon. <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.midwestwakeboarder.com" target="_blank">www.midwestwakeboarder.com</a>

I love that trick. I sometimes get mine a little OA, but I have never figured out how to do it intentionally. Dykmans has a sick one. So does Butinsky.

yeah tim's off axis 180s are awesome. if you are going back, tell him i said whats up and i got an asian chick to pee on me

Mine are pretty much straigh on axis 180's but Tim's are almost raley ish....inspired me to want to try.

I had a friend who used to pop them right out there. He said to get the slob grab on them to keep it under control. The book say's to do butt out raleys to get the feel of getting O/A <BR> <BR>Kyle is gettting --Freaky Nauti-- (Dodgeball style) <BR> <BR>(Message edited by ralph on August 01, 2006)

There is some discussion here: <BR><a href="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3184/319637.html?1154493944" target="_blank">http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3184/319637.html?1154493944</a>

we have a vid coming up that has tim's mute off axis 180 to switch mute off 180, i'll post it when i get it

Here is one of Chris's on video. <BR> <BR><a href="http://homepage.mac.com/rd4tile/FileSharing7.html" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/rd4tile/FileSharing7.html</a>

Thats pretty sick Rich !

mike take a look in the trick tips section under <BR>fs oa 3 ive written pretty extensively about learning the 180

nice alan will do. <BR> <BR>Kyle, I shot vid of Tim doing that same thing last night!