happy 4/20!
 

woot!

Heck ya...

Damn exams, you boys have fun for me.

roll it up light it up smoke it up inhale exhale

How pathetic some are.

I know to think some people drink poisen to get a buzz versus smoking a natural herb. Some people..

I think people like Eric are pathetic.

alcohol is natural, so what point are you making.... riley.

Really alcohol is all natural? You don't have to process it in any way?

It's a worthless debate, but it's not really debatable that alcohol is much more harmful then marijuana and it's not really close, so when people who drink get judgmental it's pretty hypocritical to most people that smoke. That being said, who cares if people want to have a drink or smoke some pot as long as they aren't harming anyone. It's the judgmentalism that drips from Eric's post that I find pathetic.

^ 100% agree

By the way, I do hate the "it's natural" argument despite that I am pro-legalization. Poison Ivy is natural too, it doesn't mean it's good for you.

Wakeboarding has a terrible reputation because people like this.

+1

No, it would be because of the exact same judgmentalism that you are displaying...

I think Eric was pointing more towards the maturity level of someone that is so geeked out about marajuana that they celebrate a day, time of day, etc. (420) like it's their birthday and Christmas all rolled (pun intended) into one. My daughter was telling me about the "annoying dorks" at school that were all geeked out about today's impending date and I explained to her that it's not unusual for kids at that maturity level to act that way. Call me Crazy Larry, but I just cringe with embarrassment when I see adults act like that.

Your blind if you dont see the general public opinion of the wakeboarding community. Like it or not, that opinion is formed from people like this.

It's what humans do, Dave. We have holidays, celebrations, etc. Many of them center around alcohol. So potheads choose 4/20 to high five each other. Who cares? It seems more immature to judge people for stuff like this then to actually choose a day to celebrate something you enjoy with others who also enjoy it.

Are you stoned right now? Worst statement of the year.

No, I am not stoned right now Eric. I just think people ought to be free to pursue happiness in their own way when they are not causing harm to others. An outrageous concept to you, I'm sure.

What's the big deal about everyone celebrating my birthday....;)

But that general public opinion is based on judging someone else, which is exactly what you are doing right?

You, Hitler and Scott Byerly!! :)

If you even dream of beating me you'd better wake up and apologize.

When you are as great as I am it is hard to be humble.

I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.

Interesting Profile quote there Eric, Maybe people like you are the reason Wakeboarders are portrayed in a negative light. I dont think Pot smoking has anything to do with it considering people from every walk of life do it.

Stoners!!!

:)

This thread will go no where. Not really going to judge on the drug aspect. Only want to comment that of course people are going to judge. That is a fact of life that people tend to forget. Your whole life is based on being judged. You will never escape it. Either embrace it or live life as a hermit.

When my son farts in a restaurant and then giggles about it I consider that to be immature. I guess I have sinned because I have judged him and, by doing so, shown that I am really the immature one. I guess I'm quirky that way!

Dave, that was your son that farted?!

Hey, don't judge!:eek:

Dave, you do not understand the difference between judging people for being rude or causing harm and judging people (publically!) for their choice of recreation? Do you judge people at the river for celebrating alcohol? How about for drinking excessively in front of children? You consider that more mature and less harmful then some people celebrating 4/20?

Can you point out where I judged somebody for smoking or drinking or anything other then getting geeked out about the number 420? I don't care who smokes or drinks or even farts.

Dave- If you need someone to judge farts, I'd elect Wes. He is a fart sniffer if there ever was one.

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^^^I agree with Dave completely. Its fine if you want to drink or smoke or whatever i just think its a stupid reason to do it more.

smoke it if you got it.

My favorite Cheech and Chong moment:

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Its kinda funny how this type of behavior is not acceptable in the wakeboarding community but yet in the snowboard world it is not looked at so negatively. On some snowboard vids riders dont even hide it, they are burning right on the cam in your face. Yet they are still in vids and got sponsors. If that were in a wake vid...s**t would hit the fan. The are days people celebrate drinking...for ex St Patricks Day. Y cant the smokers get their one holiday. I dont care what people do as long as it doesnt affect me

like St. Patricks Day, another drinking holiday to get wrekt, like Cinco De Mayo another drinking holiday to get wrekt, let the stoners have one who cares, they probably came up with it stoned anyway. Pot legalization will not happen, just like equal rights with Prop 8, religions come out in full force once again come November.

Who cares Eric? Has anyone ever said "ohhhh you wakeboard?? i bet you smoke a bunch of pot dont you?" Its ridiculous to think that wakeboarders have a bad rap cuz of pot..... Snowboarders used to have the same problem but now no one cares just watch any Technine snowboard video, in particular any Lucas Magoon section.

Holy Crap! Finally a thread on the new WW with some posts I was beginning to think it was a wasteland around here

glen, the holidays you mentioned are days celebrating something. they're not "drinking" holidays...people just happen to drink a lot on those days.

on that note, i couldn't care less. like stated above, as long as i doesn't affect me, puff away.

really? I didn't know that:rolleyes: Thanks for clarifying for me;) fire it up Umalimooch! lets do some Irish Car Bombs on the golf course Sunday. Get Wrekt!

you were comparing actual "holidays" to 4/20, which celebrates nothing but smoking pot. so, kind of a weak comparison.

Cinco De Mayo is an actual holiday?

Zackly

riley, are you serious?

Yeah

Cinco de Mayo (Spanish for "fifth of May") is a regional holiday in Mexico, primarily celebrated in the state of Puebla, with some limited recognition in other parts of Mexico.[1][2] The holiday commemorates the Mexican army's unlikely victory over French forces at the Battle of Puebla on May 5, 1862, under the leadership of Mexican General Ignacio Zaragoza Seguín.[3][4]

Cinco de Mayo is not "an obligatory federal holiday" in Mexico, but rather a holiday that can be observed voluntarily.[5][6] While Cinco de Mayo has limited significance nationwide in Mexico, the date is observed in the United States (also voluntarily) and other locations around the world as a celebration of Mexican heritage and pride.[7] Cinco de Mayo is not Mexico's Independence Day,[8] which actually is September 16,[9] the most important national patriotic holiday in Mexico.[10]


I guess it's a holiday if you're proud of being a Mexican, but let's be honest not too many people will admit to that.

wow...just wow. this thread just took a whole new direction.

Riley says BOOM!

Been rockin' some Slightly, Pepper, and 311 today at work today on the ipod. Right on! :)

all this bickering is really kill'n my buzz.

Seems appropriate to this conversation to listen to Ben

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Right, you were pretty harsh on people doing nothing more then choosing a day for a semi-organized celebration of something they like to do on their own time that is significantly less harmful then alcohol. I have never heard you take issue with the maturity level of people at the river, so it surprised me when you came across so harsh and judgmental toward people doing nothing more then having fun in a harmless manner.

By the way, funny story considering this conversation. Wife and I went to grab lunch nearby at Chili's. We sit down at the bar and the first thing the bartender (that we know from stopping in for happy hour now and then) say is "hey you guys, happy 420!" Classic, especially since he had no idea what my view on it would be and my wife and I look like a basic suburban couple. I thought, man Dave Wiliams would think this guy is an immature jackass! Haha.

Happy 420, pass to the left.

are you sure that is what Eric was pointing towards, cuz I cant remember him ever being that articulate.

Ahh, the long gone days before consortium membership and hair samples.

Sometimes when the wind blows just right...... well... you know. Have fun without me guys.... while you still can.

Smoking pot: The thing that nobody does that everybody does.......

By the way for everyone who takes the interweb way to serious I was joking about the Mexicans. Puff Puff give!

Ha! Pot and blow...especially in CA.

I wish more people smoked and less people drank when they operated boats... I dont mind a bunch of boats putting around less than 5mph taking their time... but drunk dudes getting all aggro behind the wheel sucks.

Annual deaths in US:

Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Marijuana 0

http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30

Who needs a holiday to drink? Happy Hour is every day!

I kind of like it that people look down on wakeboarders. Makes me proud to have been a boarder (snow and wake) for the last 16 years.

i've always said to legalize pot and tax the hell out of it. imagine how much money cali would have. ;)

Wow, some people on this thread need to partake in the 4-20 activities, so damn uptight.

Happy 4-20, to all that celebrate 4-20.

Should be a great day for

Pizza,video games and Movie sales.:D

And cable wakeboarding! Love to partake before I ride

You guys are missing the real meaning of 420.

It's ultimately the time to chill. Yes, generally the time to blaze, but a smoker is not going to chastise you if you choose instead to crack open a beer, take a shot, eat a burger, or whatever, just don't get all bent out of shape and argue with the people that pot is wrong.

I got what you were saying Riley. A lot of people use Cinco de Mayo as an excuse to eat tacos and get hammered, but many of these same people want the Mexicans sent packing. What a brilliant concept. Celebrate the National Day of Independence for a country you cannot stand.

It's actually not the Mexican Independence Day but I get it

Honestly like Joe said, making it legal and taxing it so its only a little cheaper than street dealers would come close to solving debt in a fer years

"Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000"

haha. most of the people I know that still smoke weed, are in this category. they eat crappy food, and dont exercise. all because of weed.

happy birthday scott byerly.

Still don't really understand the comparison of some people drinking beer (which is a legal activity by the way, but that's a separate issue) and a guy going on a public forum and yelling, "Yay marajuana!" As much as you want to attach my comments to a particular substance and turn the conversation toward your campaign to de-villify (I may have just made that word up) marajuana, the substance is irrelevant. I would consider it immature for someone to start a thread with "Yay alcohol" or "Yay heroin" as well.

going to head To Wendys later tonight, its STONER BASHIN TIME!

I did not compare some people drinking beer to starting a 420 thread on a public forum. I compared calling people who say "happy 420" to each other "pathetic" or "immature" vs never uttering a word about the zillions of other immature things people do like drinking very heavily and irresponsibly in front of their own, and other people's, children.

There have been "favorite beer" threads and many, many posts on WW along the lines of "yay alcohol" and I do not remember you calling those folks immature or pathetic.

And what is this "campaign" crap? Anyone who has a position on an issue is on a "campaign"? I think the government ought to let people do what they want for the most part unless it is causing harm to others. I think people like you and Eric ought to let people celebrate whatever they want to celebrate. Taking issue with people's fun that isn't harming you or anyone else seems like the very definition of pathetic to me.

Hmmm, doesn't appear my words are working. Don't have a problem with people celebrating whatever they want to celebrate. Don't have a problem with people having fun that doesn't harm me or others. Seems the more I try to clarify, the more words you put in my mouth. I think most people understand my point, so I'll have to be happy with that.

I don't know how in the world we were supposed to interpret your initial post as not having a problem with people celebrating 420, but thanks for clarifying. I guess we are now on the same page.

now that that's clear, let's have a joint and a beer! ;)

what were we talking about?

:D
lmao!

There are two theories to arguing on the internet. Neither one works.

One of the best stoner movies

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One of the best movies period...