I thought that I would post here along with in the tips thread <BR>sorry if that offends <BR> <BR>this is a link to a video of me trying the backroll on a trampoline <BR> <BR>I pretty much land that way on the water also <BR>anybody got any pointers <BR> <BR>looks like I start with the shoulder, stall out and then let the feet take me the rest of the way...... <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brucGpudzbg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brucGpudzbg</a> <BR> <BR>thanks

Looks like your arms are pretty far out, you will rotate faster if you keep them closer in.

Hey Cliff, when you figure it out and can do them, pm me and tell me the trick. From the guys who do them on my tramp, they go much higher, first of all, and secondly, they don't go out the back as much, more of a straight reverse cartwheel motion. That said, I can't replicate their work <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0>

u gotta keep the handle tight at your hip. that'll make you spin faster. you just gotta jump high first and just slowly start the cartwheel, once u get the bounce and get height then look over your shoulder and tuck your knees in tight, and just remember the keep the handle tight the whole trick. <BR> <BR>ill post a video in a sec.

<a href="http://vimeo.com/1541350" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/1541350</a>

thanks Bart <BR>that looks great <BR>I'm going to keep working at it <BR> <BR>you make it look extremely easy

jump higher, spin faster.

your flipping before you even jump so if you wake version looks the same I would say wait.