So I had ts w2w for a season, but it fell apart mid last season, I have been struggling to get it back. I can do a bat out of hell cut and skip across, but it is a nice poping w2w. I've gotten to where I have shortened the rope to get a narrower wake so I wont have to cut as hard. So I either land on my heels and slip slide around and some times make it out. Or I hit the wake, and it feels like I am getting tripped, and have to pull the board back under me. 2 pics below.... Any pointers would be greatly apreciated. <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3184/412674.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3184/412675.jpg" alt="Upload">

lean against the rope son

Tall body position. Progressive edge through the wake.

The handle should be touching your hips or very close to them. The closer the handle the more control youll have. Try putting all that weight on your back foot and lean down the line instead of in towards the wake.

and dont bend those legs or at the waist. your knees and waist are taking all the pop out of it.

I like to think about making my front foot go off the wake first. I find it's too easy to kind of square off and just lean towards the wake. That on top of everything else everyone has said.

Good point patrick, I havent heard that expression before, which also makes me think of another one: Really roll that lead shoulder away from the boat down the line. As you approach the wake the OUTSIDE of your shoulder should be leading, not the inside of your shoulder (or your chest).

OK we went out today and it was loevly, but there were 20 boats or so out (wtf) <BR> <BR>I got 2 good ts w2ws in. I really over did the handle to my hips, felt like the small of my back, and I tried my best to keep it there in the air. That helped out alot! Both of them were very smooth. I still need to edge away when I land, but I can work on that next time.

Hype, staying on your toes the entire time through the wake will help with landing in a ts edging position.

I'm having a similiar issue and these tips look great. One question, do you need to keep 2 hands on the handle thru the jump? In all of my pictures, I end up releasing my back hand and my board is facing toward the boat instead of across the wakes.

I never keep both hand on the rope, but then again it is kind of hard to do grabs with the rope in your hand.

You should be able to jump the wake both single and double handed on the handle. Many folks start TS edging and jumps single handed. This is fine but once you feel comfy with the toeside edge and the wake I would recommend getting right to the two handed approaches and then jumps. You need to be able to jump W2W two handed and then work in the grabs and style. In any case, ALWAYS leave the wake with both hand on the handle, once clear of the wake do as you please. Two hands off the wake establishes good habits and consistency with rope tension and "pop" off the wake.