Jason, that just tells the party that all they have to do is wait till the next election and they will get the position again. IOW the only thing you need on your resume is "not currently in office". Not too demanding. I voted for Obama because my ideology is more aligned with the Democrats. IOW I will never vote for a Republican until they are saying something I believe in.
Oh and wrt socialism in healthcare, I'm for it. Capitalist healthcare is failing miserably in containing costs and providing confidence that it will be there and affordable when I need it. It has also been the recipient of redirected tax revenue for years, so I guess it's really just the wrong combination of socialism and capitalism. Also past performance is the best indicator of future performance. Complaining that someone is judging your party because of what is has done is not a convincing argument. Perhaps there are "more of them" than you because the wheels have already fallen off. Don't flatter yourself as to being the only one that sees flaws. You aren't that special |
So you are for socialism in Health Care, and Obama has already proved he has socialist tendencies by allowing the government to take over GM. Are you for a full on Socialist country?
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In nutshell, county-by-county breakdowns, then adjusted for *population density*. Makes a *huge* difference in the overall shade of the country. Kinda takes the wind out of the sails of any sort of secession talk. |
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A man goes out and works all day to earn money to provide for his family. Some of that money must be given to the government to fund that man's protection from invaders, and fund the infrastructure, roads, etc. There is a fundamental problem with a government taking what one man poured sweat to attain and giving it to someone else who did nothing for it. When doing things the right way becomes corrupt (and it will) you fix the right way, you dont do what is fundamentally wrong because fixing the right way is too difficult. I believe it is wrong. John believes it is right, and I respect it. You tout whatever happens to be opposite the GOP and rename it your "own conclusions". IMO, thats no belief at all and I have no respect for it. And dont let me drive you crazy. I dont give a second thought to your opinion after I post. I dont have all the answers to political BS. I only know right from wrong and try to apply it where I can. I think you do to, but you are such a dem homer that you would rather go with what you know is fundamentally wrong than to agree with a conservative belief. After all, having a conservative opinion on anything would put you in agreement with your boy Limbaugh, and we simply cannot have that now can we? |
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Another thought, where do you think the line will be drawn on socialism? If taking over GM was step 1 and Obamacare is step 2 where does it end?
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nationalization and government rationing of energy
abolition of inheritance ultimately ending in a bizzaro-world only-in-America religious fundamentalist/communal kibbutz/pilgrim/mormon pioneer style shared means of production. |
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You're thinking of the ban that passed in NC back in May. |
shawndoggy, have you read "The Coming Insurrection"?
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As an aside I'm certainly a fan of the post-apocolyptic fiction genre. I can't think of any sort of those books or movies that doesn't end with communal (or ultimately dictatorial) government -- beginning with the "tribe" or "band." Have you read it? The audio version looks pretty cheap on amazon. Might give it a go. |
Yes, I've read it... I'm interviewing families to join me on my acreage in Texas.... We have plenty of carpenters, cooks, and willing farmers. We're still looking for a blacksmith and a brewmaster. I prefer the term "Colony" over "Commune"...
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Shawndoggy, my brother!
I figured that out some time back. In fact in this very thread, it's a fun exercise to take a post from someone you think you're on the opposite end of the spectrum from, and re-word it by just changing a few words to say the exact same thing you feel... for example: here's my mirror post of Jeremy's last post but from a conservative's perspective... "See, this is what drives me crazy about guys like you. You act as though you have everything figured out, but the rest of us (i.e. guys that don't side with you politically) are intellectually inferior. And I think someone that was infinitely smarter than the rest of us would come up with something of substance. You have not. You have simply restated what guys like Wes and John have posted and reposted which are regurgitated Liberal pundit talking points. I mean, do you have any original thoughts on the subject or are you going to continue to enlighten us with the same stale arguments and "hope" and "change"? There is not a more idealistic and naive person right now than a Democrat. And I don't think I have done any "deflecting" at all, I simply identified that Obama was a crappy President. Most of your post seems to substantiate my identification. I don't value what Mainstream Media talking heads say anymore than I value what you say. I draw my own conclusions." woah! that was scary! |
well done snyder
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Personally, I think it's funny and entertaining how these threads start one way and then take on a life of their own. No one has even responded to the originl question. And yes, it was rhetorical but, we can still dream right?
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Ammendment one was voted on in North Carolina spring of 2012. Amendment one is a constitutional amendment BANNING gay marriage.. which was already illegal in north carolina.. it also does a few other things eradicating civil unions and having various other effects. Marriage equality was not only not voted on in november it was not voted on at all, it would have still been illegal had the amendment not been passed. You are only correct in the 20% statement |
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