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This thread has made me laugh more than once....your posts are included. It's odd how many brand new profiles, along with first posts are on this thread....almost creepy.
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Wasn't going to comment but this thread has made me laugh. I don't see any reason against the first thread being deleted, wasn't really "family friendly".
And Van Cleef....... I have almost 2 decades of experience in the entertainment business working with some of the biggest entertainment establishments in the world, and let me tell you, you're a little off base ;) |
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Great post, Viejo.
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so that was sort of like a flight of the concords kinda thing? It just didn't feel like parody to me... seems like they really "meant" it.
And if they really meant it, even if it's all "just acting", isn't there some hazard in doing so? From the backlash that ted danson got dressing up in blackface at woopie's frier's club roast to the "never go full retard" admonition in Tropic Thunder, I think it's pretty clear that the entertainment consuming public will, for right or wrong, judge "entertainers" based on their work. FFS do none of you remember the backlash Ice-T got from "Cop Killer?" But hey, it turned out OK for Ice, eventually. Maybe there'll be a law n order franchise for RH in another couple decades. |
Solo, I think more people were:
A. Laughing at the toolishness of the video. :D B. Curious why was removed from WW. :confused: C. Wondering why HE REMOVED the video from youtube. If in fact it were a parody ;) D: I have an alternate link to the video, but dont want to get arrested for sharring it. - I dont think he is a bad person, nor has he offended me in any way. I'm just a normal guy that is amazed at the Super Try Hard Mode theses dudes are in. I'm from Cali, and find true humor in this. -I would post it in the 2013 playlist thread, along with some of the other "potty mouthed" songs that are listed, but I think that would be pushing it and you guys would see the end of wakdirt on WW :) |
I understand rap music (don't laugh). If rappers did half of what they claim as flagrantly as they claim, most would be in jail for life. It is an art form and particular styles glamorize drugs, sex and violence. You can rap about "Thug Life" without being a thug. Look at TuPac. He was a formally trained dancer not a gun toting gangster. I don't have a problem with white kids rapping about the hard life and honestly not all of the rhymes were half-bad.
The problem is that Randall has been hocking boards and boats from the high road for a while now and people have been swallowing it hook, line and sinker. You can't profit from your testimony and also profit from glamorizing a life of sin. I am happy to pretend (because I really don't know differently) that the gun, purple drank and ski mask was an act, but it is in direct conflict with the "firey-pheonix raised from the ashes" mythology his second go-round (or third) has been based on. |
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B. Dave had every right to delete a post if it had offensive language in it. C. The video was not posted by him or taken down by him. D. I'd still like to see it. :) |
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Solo. I can't help but feel that you're perhaps a little biased as you have to buddy up to these guys to gain shooting access. While he may well be a great guy one on one we don't know that thus are amused/ judging him on his public persona. Wakeboarding is a conservative family sport. Sure there are a bunch of kids that would look up to and try to emulate this kind of behavior. The problem is the the significant bills that come along with the sport are almost always taken care of by more conservative middle aged parents. People who likely didn't behave this way and are thus successful enough to pay the said large bills. No one wants their kid to look up to or act the way RH is currently behaving. That's why this is all relevant and should not have been removed. |
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This thread is great. we have not had an all out battle rooooooooyyyyyyalllll in a bit!
I dont know who said it but I second the notion! That video was not made for wakeboard fans. Its was made for Rap fans. I have a good buddy from Minnesota who has made pretty bigt name for himself in the rap game -- (think "god loves ugly.") At any rate, he would be the first to tell you that 75% of rap is made up, taking on a persona just like an actor does in a role. enough from me, back to my pop corn! I still got mad respect for randall, hell I still got mad respect for THE SCUD Shaprio. Lets not make him the Michael Vick of wakeboarding! |
Are you saying that you're friends with Atmosphere? Because that's one hell of a name drop, Andy! :-)
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Duh everyone in Minnesota is friends with Slug
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And a pro wrestler/governor/navy seal/actor
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And Prince!
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but what about Morris Day?
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I love the logic "don't judge or draw conclusions about Randall based on this video"! Sure, you should never associate a person and/or their character based on their own words, actions, or decisions. That would be judging a book by its cover.
So while we are at it, let's make sure we don't judge the Boston bombers as terroists, killers, or anything else negative as they might be great guys that just had a momentary lapse in judgment. We can't judge them based off of one day's events. |
I think people are more upset than Randall has done so much to rehab his life and image and separate himself from drugs and the lifestyle he used to lead and then out of nowhere the guy that was preaching to kids Jesus is talking about doing opiates and being demonically possessed... He seemed like a great guy when I met him and we all have our flaws and make mistakes, that being said I hope he just was trying to create a rap persona and is not back on drugs.
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The comments on the youtube video were about 90% positive vs. 10% negative before it was taken down. So if we all are supposed to understand that a rap "persona" is an act, and the video was received positively by those that seem to enjoy such "personas" then again, why did he take it down?
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Why is it that everyone here seems to have such a hard idea with the concept that music videos do not equal real life? The artists and people in them act out a part in said music video. It is on a completely different level from your absurdly over the top remarks Eubanks.
This music video was made for rap fans, not wakeboarders. Was it a good video? No, not really. But I don't particularly care for most rap videos, so maybe in that culture it was decent. But based on your guys' logic, Calvin Harris and Ellie Goulding are a couple; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtKZKl7Bgu0 Gorillaz endorse a girl in a mask shooting down planes and exploring an ocean full of trippy jellyfish; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04mfKJWDSzI and Chevelle is, whatever this relatively unrelated video means http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQeHSC-kwlk I mean come on. They made a music video that matches to the lyrics, Randall Harris was involved. Boo freaking hoo. Get over it. It was a crappy video, Dave pulled the thread down after the primary author of the video pulled it down on YouTube The thread became irrelevant and it was turning into a flame war over content that was not available anymore. Half of you haven't even seen the video and you're speculating about Randy Harris abusing cough syrup. COME ON. Normally threads like this would get nuked as well (they're technically against the board's policies, or at least the ones listed in the previous iteration of WakeWorld) but Dave is clearly willing to leave it open for discussion. Quote:
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Man Vandall spits so hard hes got death on his breath dawg...dude's verse sounded like some garbage the fat dude from insane clown possee would rap about. You can really tell he thought it was seriously nice too was def not a joke to him. I just find it funny in the video the dude's want to display a complete Don't give a F attitude then the video gets made private when the wrong people start watching it. That's what is fake and fictional to me. I thought he was smarter than that isn't he like 30 something years old? Maybe the purp sizzurp is to blame??
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Eubanks I didn't know making a bomb and strategically placing it in a crowded public event was a just considered a "momentary lapse of judgement"
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That literally might be the most retarded post I have ever read on wakeworld and I've been trolling the discussion section for about 6 years.
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Henry - It is called an analogy. Yes, an extreme one to iterate a point. The point of how silly I think it is that some people say that this video Randall participated in is not a reflection on him or his character. How can it not be who he is when he is volunteering to drop some questionable lyrics, flip the bird, and point a gun at his head? As others have said, I don't think people would care much if it weren't for what and who he claims to represent. Sorry I had to explain my point in greater detail for you.
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I realize Eubanks was being sarcastic and making a dumbf*ck analogy, but that still is a retarded thing to say, and very ill-timed and insensitive.
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Best. Thread. Ever. I have honestly had the biggest laughs reading through this.
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I've trolled this site for yrs. gotta say this is the best post ever! I literally read every Lon post. This beats that for me
I'm very rational guy so can see both sides of the argument. Plz keep it coming better than anything on TV! |
I don't know about you guys but actual wakeboarding excites me more than this crap
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It is still too cold to board where I live. So this is the next best wakeboarding related entertainment available now haha.
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Also, wow "Super Try Hard Mode" is a great term. I had never heard that before and I love it. There are other riders I would say that term applies to though. Wow. |
Were any of them on a really bad TV show? LOL. That's what I think when I hear "Super Try Hard".
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Amazing. WWers need something new to debate and whine about so that this thread can finally die.
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TK & Junedocc is the name to google, there is a mixtape on datpiff:
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Can I link to a google search that has the video as a result? So that it's not an embedded thing?
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I knew you would enjoy the editor's cut ;)
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I watched the vid and thought it was amusing. Mostly because, as a fan of hip-hop, it wasn't very good. That said, I am a huge Swollen Members fan and many of their early videos are pretty bad also................I have always found it amusing that actors get a pass on personas but musicians do not. Maybe because music hits us closer to the heart?.................
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Interesting Youtube channel, is that Steve Wahlman at 7:35 in the Por Vida one? Sure looks like him.
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Hate! Hate! Hate! Hate!
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Do people think someone like Rick Ross actually has however many kilos of coke in his beamer? ....eh im gonna say no
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@tn_rider yeah he's got diabetes
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Now I really want to see the video!
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And now Rick Ross has to worry about the real gansters he offended,(Deciples)
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van whatever= 4 posts, all on this thread= too ashamed to really say who you are, good job.
randall, valla(misspelled) con dios,= irrelevant to the sport at this point. yes yes i know, at 85 feet and 46 mph doing BIG backside 180's into the flats he's god but at life he's a little more earthly. its a shame discussion boards have to censor his activities b/c he doesnt have the common sense to use good taste. |
Good Taste to whom? I personally didn't find it offensive. I don't see the need pro wakeboarders to be saints. I don't hear anyone objecting to BroStock, which is basically a self admitted alcohol fueled double up contest/party. I've seen photos and videos of many under age pro riders at said event holding beverages with the word "not beer" posted over them, yet there is no thread condemning these guys for there actions. So if they posted a black censorship bar reading "not a gun" over the gun in the video, would that be acceptable? Just a thought.
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I couldn't find the full song but back when Blue Octane did a whole album featuring pro wakeboarders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXxaBWl0o_M this girl is talking over it but they fade back in to Randall's part at :56, I kinda liked it personally, the full song is on iTunes I guess I appreciate it more because he plays more on his wakeboard persona than some stupid gangster one like in the video |
My favorite part of this entire thread are all of the fan boys (yes, you too Solo) suggesting that it is immoral to dislike or comment on a crappy rap video because the idiot with the gun to his head is an excellent wakeboarder. Also amusing is the 'nobody makes you watch it' line. You people have caught one too many toe edges.
A close second is Dave. Canning a WW thread for those stated reasons should win him an award. Convincing some of you idiots that it is unrelated to those entities in the banners should win him something else.... maybe a black cooler that keeps ice "not wet" for a long time? The worst part of this thread are those of you who feel it necessary to say, in a whiny little five year old voice, "it's Dave's site! he can do whatever he wants! loogit the policy statement *link*" Seriously... that's next level nerd game. |
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Sure thing, Dave. The three most obvious resasons are:
1. Now that the video is no longer embedded it doesn't really matter. The two threads are apples and oranges. 2. Perhaps you were concerned about losing some remaining credibility? Nah... that can't be it. Seeing how the first thread was deleted for language and the title of this thread is WTF Wakeworld. Silly me. 3. This thread contains more "VANDALL IS AWESOME" than the last thread. |
Dammit, you got me all figured out!! 15 Years of integrity down the tubes. Well, we had a good run, but I guess I knew eventually some genius would crack the code. I think I'm gonna start a golf website and see if I can pull the wool over everybody's eyes for another 15 years.
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Another reminder of why I stopped coming to this site.......
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Can we implement a new policy where we can vote to kick off members that bitch and whine and suck?
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I agree. I have been a member here since 2001 and it seems lately there are new guys that drag the entire site down.
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No, I don't mind whining and/or a good healthy discussion as long as it abides by the rules. It's pretty rare, but occasionally I boot somebody just because they don't contribute anything but negativity. The thing that has always amazed me about this forum is that the quality of members is so high that most negativity and the majority of douchy posters are flushed out pretty quickly. This discussion board is an amazingly efficient machine! :)
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Until an xstar vs. g23 thread or tige vs Malibu thread shows up.
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^^^Would you mind explaining what that means??
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The claws tend to make their way out in those threads, that's all!
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