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By Bill J (sdboardr99) on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 1:13 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I just picked up the new Canon Digital Rebel 6.3 megapixel SLR ( ). I posted some of these pics in another thread but it is more appropriate here. Anyway, for $1000 this is an awesome camera and the point-and-shoot cameras don't come close to the quality of the images. Even with a low-end $200 75-300 USM zoom lens I got great results, but I expect even better results once I get a higher quality 70-200L series lens.

So here are some sample pics from my first week using the camera:

By Philip (phil_deez) on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 1:22 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Bill I'm looking at getting that same camera. So you think it's really worth the money versus a little cheaper point and shoot camera? What do you like and dislike about it so far? I'm not a professional photographer by any means but I want to buy a digital camera that has a fast shutter speed and high qaulity pics.
By Bill J (sdboardr99) on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 1:36 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Yes, I definitely think it's worth the money. No shutter lag and being able to change lenses are the biggest advantages. You really need a decent zoom to shoot wakeboarding and shutter lag makes it easy to miss a trick. The next thing is higher shutter speeds and the ability control all of the settings manually.

The only thing that I don't like so far is that amount of money I'm going to spend on all of the accessories that I now feel I have to have: more and bigger memory cards, higher quality flash, more lenses, etc.

But I think you can see from the pics above that the basic camera with a $200 zoom does a great job. The only thing you will have to buy is a CF memory card since the camera doesn't come with one, and also buy a USB card reader since transferring images from the camera is slow and wastes the battery.}

By Philip (phil_deez) on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 7:11 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Just curious where did you buy your camera, what was included, and for how much?

No shutter lag is exactly what you need when shooting for tricks. I like how you can change it up and use different lenses too. It's just that I have a hard time spending that much money on a camera for recreational/consumer photography.

Thanks for your input, much appreciated.

By Peter Chandler (peter_c) on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 12:00 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I get all my CF cards from Amazon. If you search the web they have the best price or at least comparable for the Lexar Pro's. It is the fastest media available at 40X and has a great warranty. They also come with a card reader.

Just in case you "might have" asked for advice :-)

By Philip (phil_deez) on Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 3:27 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Thanks Peter, I'll be sure to check it out.
By Bill J (sdboardr99) on Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 11:08 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I bought my camera from Dell because it was 10% off during a recent sale. Apparently digital SLR cameras weren't supposed to be included in the sale but their web store didn't know that

So it was $913 shipped 2 day, no tax, for the kit which includes the camera and 18-55mm lens, no CF card. Most places sell the kit for $999 and it's hard to find it discounted because it's in short supply and high demand.

By Bill J (sdboardr99) on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 5:50 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Some more pics from my Digital Rebel that I've posted in the non-wakeboarding area:


By steve z. (steve2237) on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 6:48 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Wow those pictures are very sharp! I like the surfing set. Were you on shore when you took those?
By christopher stack (deepstructure) on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 7:19 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
those are amazing pics bill
By Bill J (sdboardr99) on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 8:29 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I was out on the jetty, which made it easier to get close to the action.

I'm glad you like the pics!

By Jeremy Ambrister (shutupandboard) on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 11:59 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post

Thats how many individual hairs are on that birds feathers. I counted.

By Raphael Gandara (raphael_gandara) on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 4:32 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Good and perfect pictures!

By Kevin Keller (ctrider) on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 10:23 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Bill, Did you get the camera with the lens that comes standard or just the body? Is the lens that comes with the camera worth getting, or would it be better to buy the body and get a better lens separate?

Thanks for the info.

By Bill J (sdboardr99) on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 11:42 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I got it with the kit lens, which is a decent lens for the money. Definitely not a great lens, but for less than $100 it's a good buy. Since then I've picked up a used 28-105mm lens off eBay, and a new 70-200 f4L lens for shooting wakeboarding.

By Bill J (sdboardr99) on Monday, December 22, 2003 - 11:38 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Are are two of my favorite wakeboarding shots from my Digital Rebel:


By christopher stack (deepstructure) on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 7:55 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
wow - the colors in the first pic are awesome. really rich. helps that both rider's color-schemes are coordinated, especially the first. very metrosexual of them! ;)
By Pierce Bronkite (pierce_bronkite) on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 1:40 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post

How does the camera perform straight out of the box? Do the images look good without having to buy a lenses or is that a must? I am looking to upgrade my camera and yours is high on my list. Also, does the camera have an option to out put high resolution(300 dpi) photos? Thanks.

By Bill J (sdboardr99) on Thursday, December 25, 2003 - 8:46 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
The camera performs just fine out of the box. However, just like any SLR, lenses are an important investment and critical to getting good shots. For wakeboarding you'll want about a 135mm lens on the Rebel. I initially used a 75-300 lens (about $250) but upgraded to the Canon L series 70-200mm (about $600). It's great for wakeboarding but as you can see in the pics above the cheap lens does a pretty good job too (the surf pics were also taken with the 75-300mm lens).

It's not a point-and-shoot camera so it takes some time and effort to get great shots, but with some effort and skill you'll be able to capture moments that a p&s never could, at least not with the same quality.

By Troy (liveoz) on Saturday, December 27, 2003 - 7:03 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post

The second pic seemed to be missing something. I think I've got it fixed for you.

By foammesh (thinair) on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 3:25 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Got to say my digital rebal has renewed my love for photography. Being able to see my pan blurs a second after taking them helps a ton. I know when I have the shot.

By nickster (nar722) on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 4:18 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hey Bill,
I am also thinking of getting that camera. Regarding the lenses you use, are they special digital lenses or are they the same ones used on an SLR? I have an EOS A1 and would like to use those lenses

By Maestro (maestro) on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 4:46 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Nick - the canon EF series lenses will work on both film and digital SLRs...
By Bill J (sdboardr99) on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 5:53 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Maestro is correct. In addition, Canon has announced a couple of new lenses in what they call EF-S series, which only fit the Digital Rebel.
By foammesh (thinair) on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 6:12 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
One thing to keep in mind. You're standard eos lenses are multiplied by 1.6(you're 200mil will be a 320mil). My old strobe doesnt fire at all on auto like with my 1-n. I have to adjust it manually. It is a crappy 430ez, guess I will just have to use it as my slave driven strobe. Didn't really think about having to get a new flash, oh well, another new toy.
By Bill J (sdboardr99) on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 10:58 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
All of the pics in the Ricky G photo gallery were taken with the Digital Rebel. The riding shots were taken with a 70-200 f4L, and the rest with the kit lens, 18-55mm.

By Pierce Bronkite (pierce_bronkite) on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 8:31 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post

Have you messed around with more of the advanced options like Custom white Balance and the processing parameters? I am curious to know how the results would look. BTW, very nice pictures.

By Bill J (sdboardr99) on Friday, January 09, 2004 - 12:10 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Just a little - sharpening and contrast. No need to play with the white balance because I've been shooting outdoors and it's been accurate. Lately I've been shooting in RAW mode and I have to get some experience converting the RAW images to .tiff or .jpeg, in which case the advanced options don't come into play because you control all of that in the conversion.

By Jonathan French (rock_n_boardin) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 10:55 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hey Bill what shutter speed setting do you use for those wakeboarding pics with your zoom? I know you mentioned it in some thread but I can't seem to find it. Thanks, Sunday is my first day shooting wakeboarding, can't wait? Since I am a rookie any other tips would be awesome!!!
By Bill J (sdboardr99) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 11:00 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
If it's a sunny day then usually 1/2000 @ f4 ISO 100.
By Jonathan French (rock_n_boardin) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 11:03 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Dang that was fast, thanks!!! I will post the results on Monday!! Cheers
By Curtis (cwb123) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 11:15 am:    Edit Post Delete Post

excelent choice with the camera, we just got the exact same camera about a month ago and love it. the quality is amazing, we also got a 150-300 lense, haze filter, 256mb memory card, and it kicks A$$

By Jay Jackson (jhwj3) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 12:10 am:    Edit Post Delete Post

great pics! in november, i will celebrate one year of owning the sweetness that is the digirebel. Question for you about non-Canon brand flashes? do you know what the compatibility of the camera is with Quantaray flashes? so far, have not found one that is compatible with the AF features. Any input would be appreciated!

By Bill J (sdboardr99) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 1:01 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Jay, check out this article for some good info on Canon and other brands:

Your best bet might be a Canon 220EX which can be found on eBay for about $75 - $80.

By Tim (suckbuthavefun) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 5:57 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Have you installed the firmware hack? If so, what is the biggest improvement on it.


By Bill J (sdboardr99) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 12:16 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Tim, no I didn't install the hack. But I ended up selling it to a friend because I upgraded to the Canon 1D Mark II. I went with that camera for it's speed (8fps) and focusing system. The Rebel worked well for shooting from the boat but not as well from a chase boat due to it's 7 point AF system and AI Focus only working in sports mode.

By Daniel Galloway (mississippireb) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 2:42 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Tim, I installed the hack on my Rebel mainly for the flash compensation ability. I do a lot of indoor photography, so that was the biggest improvement for me. Really Jonesing for the new 20D. 5fps, up to 23 shots for the 20D as opposed to 2.5fps, up to 4 for the Rebel. 20D is definately an action camera, where the Rebel is more of a snapshot camera.


By shelby daniel (oldschoolripper) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 3:20 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I second that Bill J, the rebel is not a good camera for shooting from a chase boat. The auto focus is terrible. I cannot afford the MK II, so I am upgrading to the 20D in hopes that it will have a much better autofocus. The burst rate and increased buffer will be much better also (I hope).
By shelby daniel (oldschoolripper) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 3:42 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
BTW Tim I see You're from Pontotoc, small world as I am from Tupelo. I bet I have seen you @ Bean's Ferry in Fulton before. I ride with Nathan Strange and crew. Crazy. Anyway, where do you plan on buying the 20D? I think Best Buy in Memphis is the best bet for locally, as the warranty you can buy is helpful or has been to me since my Rebel died for no reason took it back to them new one no questions asked. Also a link to my online wakeboard pic gallery on wakeboarder. cheers.

By shelby daniel (oldschoolripper) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 3:42 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Sorry I meant BTW DANIEL

My Bad

By Daniel Galloway (mississippireb) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 6:56 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Shelby, Crazy man. We try to hit Bean's Ferry when we can. I'm in the Wakesetter that is in my profile. I have not ridden with Nathan, but I have a bud that has ridden with him or seen him ride, he says he's pretty sick. I'm probably gonna hold off on the 20D, although I'd love to have it, because the Rebel has been doing a pretty good job thus far. I work for a photography studio here in Pontotoc and we order from a Pro supply store. Believe it or not, I prefer the Rebel over the Fuji S2 Pros that we have. Canon just makes a better product. If you see us out, come over and hollar at us.


By Daniel Galloway (mississippireb) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 7:02 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
BTW, sweet photo gallery


By Tim (suckbuthavefun) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 9:21 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
What exactly does the flash compensation do?

By Daniel Galloway (mississippireb) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 9:34 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Your camera meters available light and adjust your compatible flash's output accordingly. Sometimes the camera gets it wrong (more often than not with my cheap flash)and the flash compensation allows you to adjust by increments how much more or less flash that you want for the situation. It also works well for shooting outside for a fill flash, where the flash is not lighting the whole subject, just the underexposed areas like the eyes. I usually set the FC down about a half stop to a stop in these cases.


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