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By Adam W (adameusf) on Monday, October 06, 2003 - 10:10 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hey everybody, I've been wakeboarding for about 4-5 months now. I'm really getting tired of boarding behind my centre console. Is there a way to get into a good used boat, preferably with a tower for under 15k?
 
By Brad G. DeHaan (bdehaan) on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 9:14 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
My guess is you'll be hard pressed to find a decent wakeboard boat w/ tower for under 15k unless it is quite old w/ a lot of hours. Good luck though
 
By pwork (siuski) on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 10:06 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
You can find a early '90s MC, CC, or BU for under 15k in good shape. They are great boats and you can always add a tower. Search Flipsell or Boattrader, that is where I found mine. Also look at the late 80's CC's and MC's.
 
By Tom Adrian (tommyadrian5) on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 10:11 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Brad "De" Newbie, don't hate on people that want wakeboard boats just cause you have an I/O.

Adam, there are plenty of boats out there you can get for less than 15K that will serve you very well. If you are looking for a great wake from a solid boat, look for an old Ski Nautique 2001(that's the model). These are solid boats that, with weight, put out some of the nicest wakes of any boat, ever. A buddy of mine is selling a 95 Malibu Echelon with wedge/ppass/skylon pole/low hours, for $15K, locally. Look at the places that pwork suggested, boattrader.com, flipsell, and anywhere else people recommend. You'll find plenty of used boats that will suit you very well for less than 15K.

 
By Adam W (adameusf) on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 10:54 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Thanks for all your input. I've been looking over those sites and found a few things. The info about the Ski Nautique 2001 is more along the line of what I was looking for. Specific models that have a great wake, as well as ones to stay away from. Which boat/engines have the best track record for reliability?

All the info is greatly appreciated, and if anyone lives in central fL and wants to ride let me know.

 
By Tommy (laptom) on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 11:07 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
There are no specific bad engine types. Indmar and PCM are good. But I also heard good stories about MerCruiser. Before buying do a compression test for all 8 cylinders. Everything else on the negine is no problem and can easily be fixed. Check the transom if those work correct (engage, forward/rear, neutral).

As they said, look at Nautiques 2001 models, I have an Barefoot 2001 and VERY satisfied with the weight and quality of the boat. The biggest disadvantage is the lack of space in the boat. No open bow and 19f. You'll need a tower on the 2001 with boardracks!!
Also check the SportNautiques from '93. Mastercraft has nice old skiboats which do fine as wakeboardboat.. Plenty of choice in the 10-15k range!

 
By Adam W (adameusf) on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 11:36 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Thanks Tommy. The boat I have now is my first boat and its an outboard. If I get the ski boat, it will be my first inboard. With that, what is a compression test?

Anything else I should know about buying an inboard? Thanks again for helping a newbie.

 
By Tommy (laptom) on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 12:11 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
No problem Adam, glad I could help.
In my prev post I meant that I'm satisfied with the Wake and quality of the boat (It was late in Europe).

With a compression test you check if the cilinders/pistons/valves are good of the engine.
You could this by yourself or bring the boat to a dealer and ask if the would to it for you. It takes 15 minutes or less.
If you do it by yourself; you'll need something to unscrew a sparkplug (I don't know how it's named) and a compression meter. You can buy both for under the $50,- but watch on the quality of the compression meter.

1. Take the central cable of the distributor. (The cable between the coil and distributor). This is not neccessary, but the engine won't start in this way.
2. Unscrew the first spark of the cilinder.
3. Screw the compression meter in the spark hole.
4. Vent the compression meter (set to zero).
5. Start the engine (it won't start because you taken out the cable between coil and distributor), and watch the compression meter. Note on a paper the first strike of the piston and after 3-5 strikes.
6. Unscrew the compression meter and put in the spark again.
7. Repeat 2-6 for all 8 cylinders.
The compression for all 8 cylinders should be the same (almost). I don't know howmuch the compression should be for different engine (and I use the metric system) but ask a boat/car dealer for it.

Good luck

 
By salty87 (salty87) on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 1:30 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
the engine on an inboard is obviously different from an outboard but its just a slightly modified car engine (ford or chevy usually). the newer ones are fuel injected and have computers and stuff but the older boats are easy to work on. don't worry about that too much.

the compression test should show all cylinders above 100 and the difference from the highest to lowest readings should be no more than 15% or so.

as far as which models of boats to look at, look at a bunch. then decide what you like and what will fit your needs for room. its easy to add a tower and stuff so don't limit yourself to boats that are already set up, someone's looking to recoup the money they spent on those.

check the boat thoroughly, look under all the seats and in all the compartments. if you smell anything rotting or see any wood flaking, walk away. use the wrench you've brought for the compression test to see how tight the bolts securing the engine mounts are. if these bolts aren't grabbing, the stringers are probably starting to rot. not good.

definitely take it to the lake with your board.


 
By Pierce Bronkite (pierce_bronkite) on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 1:45 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
One thing to do is to get a Marine Surveyor. They can do all of the compression checks, electrical, test the engine and check many other things such as the bilge pump, gas tank etc. I had one done for my boat and they checked inside and out and let me know the status of every component on the boat. They cost a bit of money but it was worth it to me because I did not know certain terms such as compression checks and my bank required me to do it before they financed it.If you do get a Marine Surveyor make sure they have a good service reputation.



(Message edited by Pierce Bronkite on October 08, 2003)

 
By Adam W (adameusf) on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 1:58 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Awesome comments guys, keep it up. I'll be bringing my personal Marine Surveyor (mechanic Father-in-law).

Thanks again!

 
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