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By Tom Adams (gunnertom4593) on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 9:51 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
This is right down the street from me and I am trying to convince my dad to buy a boat.
http://onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=598187

Is this a good boat for a good price? It looks decent to me.

How is the wake?

 
By Kevin Hoye (wakebrdr38) on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 10:54 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Great boat! I learned to ride behind that same model. That would be a good price but there isnt a trailer. Throws a nice wake. And thats not a ski, its a sport, it will throw a much better wake than a ski of that year.
 
By Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas) on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 10:57 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Wake = GREAT.

AWESOME DEAL.... I would jump on that A.S.A.P... I've seen that boat in person, looks really well taken care of...

Plus the Gt-40 engine is bulletproof. 600 hrs is just broken in.

Honestly, that is a screamin deal.
Same hull as my boat, this is what the wake will look like give/take... I have more pics too if you want, just email me or something.

Upload

 
By Randall Arthur (rbalan) on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 11:13 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Uh...thats what the wake will look like with 1500-2000 pounds of ballast. Thats quite a deal, I would be a little cautious. Crawl under the boat and check for dings, scratches, and shoddy gelcoat repair. Even in this economy that seems a little low, or the seller is extremely motivated.
 
By SS (illini88) on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 12:19 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
It's a good deal, but consider that there is no trailer. That will partially explain the lower price. Having no trailer will eliminate some buyers because they don't want to mess with logistics. Now, you can find a used trailer and be in good shape.
 
By Peter Chandler (peter_c) on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 12:35 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
It is worth what they are asking. There is no trailer, board racks, bimini, PP, and the list goes on. Nice boat, but missing some accessories and necessities.
 
By Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas) on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 12:37 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Randall, I think stock on that boat is like 500 lbs, getting another 1000lbs (we run 1500lbs in our boat) in there will not be hard.

I know you're in Lakeland... check it out, it is in awesome shape, I remember looking at it while I was in Winter Haven.... take you dad and check it out.

I would bet you can get an top of the line trailer for like $2500

and ~$14000 for that boat is still a good score..

here was a recent thread where someone was looking to buy a 99 pro air (same boat) and it was being sold for 26k (too much IMO) but because of that, its a deal
http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/324254.html?1147307078


NADA with its options is about 18k

 
By Kevin Hoye (wakebrdr38) on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 12:42 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Nick its not quite the same hull but its very close. The sport doesnt quite as deep in the water as the super sport. (Look at the two together and the sport has less draft in the back.) From my understanding its a stretched out open bow version of the 2001. A little wider and 2 feet longer. With enough weight though you can get it similar to Nicks... well maybe. Nick has a v drive so lets say the engine is 800 plus at least another 800 in sacks just in the back. That means you are gonna need at least 1600 pounds in the rear and theres no way that will fit. With the direct drive all the motor weight is in the middle. Thus the wake will be more mellow. To start id throw between 400 and 700 in the back over stock and two 440s on the sides of the motor and 300 up front and see what that does. Thats how i weight my 2001 and it looks just like nicks pic.
 
By Tom Adams (gunnertom4593) on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 4:10 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Thanks a lot, I will definitely go check it out.

One more thing, I ride currently behind my buddy's tige RZ2 with 1650lbs of ballast, do you think I could make the wake as good as that with a decent amount of weight? (I know the wake will be different but will it be as good)

 
By Randall Arthur (rbalan) on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 6:36 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I am not familiar with the tige, but you can get a pretty good wake from the sport, especially if you don't mind sacs not being hidden. I believe a 350 lb tube sac fits just right on top of the factory ballast in the trunk. Put a rear seat sac in the ski locker(it will probably only fill to about 450 lbs). The wake will be respectable at approx 1250 lbs. Add 2 vdrive sacs or 750s to the sides of the motor or 1 in the bow an the other behind the motor and you'll have a very good wake.
 
By Kevin Hoye (wakebrdr38) on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 8:52 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
weight the boat correctly and you could probably get a better wake than the rz2. that however is my opinion. It all depends on what you like. There is a reason all of the older nautiques (2001, sport, super sport, 210) have such a rich history in the sport. Lots of firsts for the sport occurred behind these boats back in the day
 
By Tom Adams (gunnertom4593) on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 4:38 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Adding another boat into the equation, what do you think....http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1999-Correct-Craft-Super-Air-Nautique-210-93640323
 
By bb12 (bradenb12) on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 6:54 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Seems like a really good price for a 99 210.
 
By MikeS (mikes) on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 7:53 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
^^^^^wasn't someone on here looking at that same boat a few wekks ago? ^^^^^^^
 
By MikeS (mikes) on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 7:56 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Yup. http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/666096.html?1234421644
 
By Tom Adams (gunnertom4593) on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 6:28 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Do you think the 98 sport would (could) do well with this ballast setup....replace the back seat with the 1600lb fly high seat, then put a 750 down the walkway at the front, plus the 500lbs stock.
what do you think?

Kevin said I would need 1600 in the back and there you go! haha

 
By Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas) on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 9:54 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I would say you need 1000 in the back, 500 in the front

~1500 total, thats all our supersport runs.

getting that + stock and you should be golden.

 
By Randall Arthur (rbalan) on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 12:48 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I believe the back seat itself is the gas tank (under the cushions), at least it is for 2000 models. A 750 is too wide for the walkway. I almost agree with what Nick says. I run 2 rear gravity games sacks in the trunk which gets me close to 1000 lbs and 120 lbs in lead in crevases next to the gas tank (no factory ballast). If you add a tube sac or similar in front of the seat, you would be close to 1500 lbs. Depending on passengers, you'll need more than 500 lbs to keep the nose down, more like 800 lbs. You will need to reprop as well.
 
By Tom Adams (gunnertom4593) on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 5:29 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Would this work in the bow of this boat. http://www.buywake.com/catalog/detail/FL_Zgywr That would give me 750, without having to worry about the walkway.
 
By Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas) on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 5:48 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I may not know for sure, but the ski locker on the boat is HUGE.... we can fit like 800lbs in our ski-locker, if it is anything close to that you could get away with
Rear stock + whatever you can fit in that back locker
Middle - 800 lbs (fly high fat seat bottom fits like a glove)
front - ~800 lbs in the "U" shaped bow bag fly high makes....

This is exactly how I would run it
STOCK +
Rear - this bag filled as full as it will go
http://www.buywake.com/catalog/detail/FL_ttJqn

Middle - same bag in the ski locker, fills 100% and adds a lot
http://www.buywake.com/catalog/detail/FL_ttJqn

Bow -U shape will work but will add a lot less weight than the triangle one (which fits great under the nautique bow) ... it won't fill up 100% but way more than the U shape would
http://www.buywake.com/catalog/detail/FL_vX2n1


You would be running the perfect amount of weight and lose no seating.... buy this thing so I can use it next time I'm in Winter Haven, hahaha, but seriously.... its a good buy.

 
By Tom Adams (gunnertom4593) on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 11:56 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
thanks man sounds good. Yeah if I do get it (still not sure) you can come ride it for sure whenever you are over here.
 
By Phillip Irani (phili) on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:00 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Not if it was run in salt water.
 
By Tom Adams (gunnertom4593) on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 12:49 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
It wasn't run on salt. Always run in a freshwater lake
 
By Jeff Kukuruda (ruste) on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 1:07 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
just a cranium's up, there is a trailer for sale on planetnautique.com for that boat! good luck! I have a 98 SS/Air and i love it, the wake is second to none!
 
By Tom Adams (gunnertom4593) on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 2:55 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Oh I found a trailer for it, but thanks man.
 

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