|heres a sneak peak to their new beast. coming in at 22 feet and a 102 inch beam the V226 is a beast. i have yet to sit inside a boat and have the seats come up as high as this boat does. you really feel like your inside the boat. the amount of room this thing has to offer rivals most 24 foot boats. |
|Is this the pickle forked Supreme Ive been hearing about? Supposed to be pretty sharp looking.|
|I can't wait to see the photos of the wake.|
|soon as i get behind one i will post pics of the wake. this boat just got finished last night and is on its way to florida for the expo as we speak.|
|hate to bring down the stoke here, and i guess as a whole its good to see other manuf. taking a stab at it, but this boat is very plain looking. like Bayliner plain looking. prob. the most unappealing dash i have ever seen, and nothing really jumps out at you. The pickelfork is cool, not as cool as MC's in '04, or Tiges in '06, or MB's in '07 ( i might have the yr's wrong). Anyways, I don't know alot about Supreme boats, maybe I am missing something here? It's big i guess??|
|Yikes, that dash is terrible. The rest of the boat looks pretty nice. I'll be curious to see wake pictures as well.|
|Looks just like the x2 IMO|
|The dash looks like something I'd would try and make as a kid to power my rocketship in my treehouse. |
Fire the person who designed that.
|jason, do you work for supreme by any chance? just curious|
|I like it, clean looking. Not big fan of interior though. Curious to what the wake will be like. Being Supreme is more of a entry level wakeboat does anyone know what their asking for these?|
|You had me, right up till the dash pic. Yikes!|
|An inside source told me that the dash was just thrown on for the Expo show. Supposedly there is a better looking dash for this model.|
|I wish Malibu would do a picklefork. That is a good lookin boat.|
|eargasm, i hope so. this dash needs help. |
they should try someting diff. for the graphics too. maybe some light purple flames doown the side, thats always a good look.
|The boat is sick in person and it is huge. The surf wake will beat an Enzo and as soon as I ride it I will let you know on the wakeboard wake. |
The dash is already being re-done. That dash had to stay as it needed to get to surf expo. Of course there are a few little bugs to get worked out etc, like the dash, but I think it is going to be a great boat, plus it will be priced lower than any pickle fork its size.
|Yea the dash in that pic is not how the boat will come. Shawn is right about the dash being installed just for the expo.|
|jason, thats cool. this boat def. has potential...do you have any insight on pricing? i could see it maybe competing with malibus and tige's low-end line... like maybe 60K??|
|Jason, also post the details, ballast size, graphic options... etc.|
|Why would you just throw a dash in for the biggest Industry show of the year? I Knew it was coming for a while now. Glad to see it actually put together. I think I remember hearing that the hull was designed by the same guy who designed the VLX hull. Not sure|
|I agree Ben. This is your chance to show off your product and you just throw a fake dash in??? It would look better if there was just no driver's panel and dash at all. Maybe they'll remove it before Expo. |
I didn't know that Supreme still made any boats since Murray rode for them back in the 90's!
|It was designed by Dave Triano, the same guy that designed the 247 for Malibu and also designed the Enzo. |
Waylon, the boat has 1500 lbs of ballast. Graphic options are still coming.
The boat will be closer to $50k.
Derek, maybe I misunderstood your post, but did you say that it would compete with Malibus and lower end Tige's? Are you saying that Malibu's sit with lower end Tige's?
As far as fit and finish go (from seeing it in person and other than the dash) I would put it against any Tige, Supra, Moomba, Sanger, Centurion. It doesn't quite have the extra bling like a Wakesetter/MC/CC but it also comes in $10-20k less than those boats.
This boat won't be for everyone, but for someone that wants a great boat with alot of the options of the big 3 without paying for it, with a ton of room. This is a boat that will be hard to beat bang for buck.
|Man, I love that our sport has "bang for your buck" and bargain boats starting at $50K!|
|Good one Eubanks I second your statement|
|Sad isn't it...|
|Yeah, derek, which "low-end" line of Tiges are you referring to??? |
A thread about another pickle-forked boat and Tige somehow gets a shot taken at them
yeah, you did misunderstand. i was just saying that Tige and Malibu offer "price point" versions of there popular wakeboats, and maybe this offering from Supreme will compete with these budget boats.
check my profile, I am as big of a Tige fan as you will find. I'll take my Tige 22v w/ 2000 lbs. over my buddies Wakesetter w/ 3500 lbs. anyday!! I find the Tige has way more holeshot, less vibration, gets better fuel economy, and hammers through d/u's way better. The only wake I like better is older (98-02) MC v-drives... Go Tige! shoot, i just opened a big dirty can of worms, didn't I ??
|Justin...call me ..lets ride Friday!!|
|p.s. i have loaded up the Tige with as much as 4000 lbs., and have found that about half of that is what works best for my riding ( 25.5 mph, 87 ft.)...i believe that you can get a better wake w/ lees weight (not no weight!) out of a tige than many other v-drive boats. ok, enough Tige-talk.|
|I am pretty sure these are being built at Fineline in Merced at the Centurion plant.|
|I gotcha Derek, I just misunderstood what you meant.|
|Derek...Now I get what you were trying to say.|
|From the outside I think it looks better than the other two manf. boats. The lines are just cleaner....Just my .02|
|IMO I really cant believe that this boat will put out a better wake then a Enzo for surfing... Just my .02 And I dont think I would buy a boat from a manufacturer who would install a temp. dash just for show. What is up with that?|
|Anthony...this boat was built to beat the Enzo and the guy that designed the Enzo designed this boat...he guaranteed it. :-) |
As far as the dash goes...I admit it sucks that it isn't finished, but as with all brand new developed boats, it took longer than they thought and the dash guys did not come through for them.
It is good seeing everbody's comments...this is how boats and boat manufacturers get better. Keep em' coming.
|I dislike my supreme, as compared to boats of 2004 and newer, I am however impressed with the standard features it has for being as old as it is, they just started putin towers on boats in '99 right? This boat should be competeing with Centurion, Calabria, maybe tige, moomba, are almost identicle to sanger [maybe like a Chevy, GMC kinda deal]. I'm sorry to say that the supreme cannot compete with the main three, Nautique, Master-Craft, and Malibu, and I don't think it was intended to. Personally I dislike the Pickle-Fork on anything other than an M-C, but that's just me. other than that, it's a very nice looking boat, I can appreciate the swivel captain's chair [mine broke], the step on the transom, the [rockford fosgate??] speakers everywhere including the bow, they've deffinately improved.|
|looks good but that dash looks like it's off a nautique 2001|
|Trevor, "maybe tige"?? Want to explain that one a little more? Not wanting to start an argument and definitely want to see what you are trying to insinuate.|
|I hope Fineline has cleaned these boats up and are making a better product, cuz our 04 SUCKED except for the wake. With 2200lbs the wake was comparable to a semi loaded 210, no kidding!|
|I like it!|
|You really need to see the running surface of the back of the boat... the most VEE I have seen in a tournament boat EVER!|
|Justin, is Supreme then going to step up and start supporting the wakesurf industry? I would feel better about them if this is their angle. I guess I still hold a little grudge since the Supreme salesman acted like I didn't have enough money to buy one of his boats ( I was wearing t-shirt and shorts). He missed out on a sale because I bought a Centurion Avalanche that day. Anyway good luck to Supreme, although I am not a big fan of the pickle fork.( I am old school) Mastercraft has the only decent looking pickle out there. IMO|
|I have a few observations on this boat for discussion: |
1) As a boat owner who has always lived in the southern half of the U.S., I have always been aware of hot vinyl seats. I would not have used the dark gray in the seating areas on this boat.
2) The dash is a very poor showing for a new boat intended to show off the best a company can do for design and sales. With that beautiful new Malibu dash, and Tige, CC and MC all showing off nice new designs in the last year or so, this is a bad decision to show the boat without a state of the art design. Supreme will lose more customers than the new hull will draw in for a closer look.
3) Supreme made a nice step/seat on the transom for ingress/egress and a spot to sit and put your board on. Why would they then go and put a stainless plate there to heat up in the sun and give the rider blisters the second they step or sit on it in the sun?
What I see shown here is a nice hull design with very poor execution of the things a boat owner finds important in every day use-ability. This boat is not ready to compete in the marketplace, even if it is priced at a V ride or Z1 pricepoint.
|Its an X-stars retarded baby.|
|^^^ With that attitude, it's no wonder some ppl don't like MC owners. |
I don't mind the dash being that simple. Simple is a lot easier to understand for the new boat owner and definitely a lot easier to focus on the sport and not the boat. $.02 Primary reason we have boats... It's all about the sport and not about the boat.
|IMO this could be a good looking boat. It looks like its a "prototype" boat, kind of like epics very first few pics we all saw. I think with a change in the dash, some changes with the graphics (maybe just a small Supreme logo closer to the back of the boat on the side, like Bu's stainless decal; or better yet, no graphics at all and a change in the color placement so it doesn't look so "normal"). Do you have any side pics? I'd be intrested to see what the tower looks like from the side. It looks like they just took a tower off of another model supreme and threw it on there (again, like a "prototype" boat). I think with a different tower and the other changes i mentioned it could be a sweet looking boat. Aside from the interior, it does look very very similar to an RZ2 or like an X2 and a half (since its a bit bigger). From what i can see from the hull, it looks like the keel comes out more under the bow than the mastercrafts...more like the tiges i guess. I wonder what that will make the wake look like. |
I also think if they were going to make a picklefork, then why not just go ahead and make a combo boat of all the unique features that alot of the newer boats from other manufaturers have. Like Have some rear facing seating (or even reversable like the new CorrectCrafts), or Maybe a bow filler cushion to maximize that bow area (which would be gynormous). Also, does anyone know if the ballast will be tanks or bags? Under the floor? Will it be a 3 tank/bag system or 4 with a bow ballast? I know all of this stuff can be done when someone purchases a boat (like we all do) but some small tweaks here and there to make a boat either completely riding ready (I love that you don't need to add anything ballast wise to epics) or even to save cost and keep it a lower priced boat, how about making the ballast very user friendly for a DIY upgrade.
These amsll changes here and there are not expensive, crazy requests i don't think so it would still be able to stay in the same price range. I just think it has the potential to be a great boat for the price (with or without the changes), but would help compete with the 09 vride and whatnot a bit more IMO. sorry for the long arss post! Oh ... I'd like to see some pics of from the rear of this thing too!
|Nice looking boat..... |
That dash looks like an early 80's I/O!
Way to go retro...... That dash console sucks.
Other than that it looks nice.
|There will be quite a few of the items that sippi mentioned. They are building a bow filler as well as a back rest for a rear facing seat like the enzo has as far as ballast goes there are 2 tanks in the rear and one bow tank|
|Looks pretty cool but I don't care for that type of seat it looks really unfinished. The front end looks very spacious and comfortable. The pickle fork looks hesitant and somewhat flat. I'd be willing to bet the covered steps in back are for show. They'd be to hot and slick for real world use. I'll lay of the dash as it's going to be changed but when you pair it with the seat (right now) it looks like a console drive. |
Trevor, Sanger's and Supreme's are not identical and are nothing like GMC/Chevy.
Derek, in reference to your purple flames remark. You have the wrong eargasm.
|I just wanted to share that up here in Calgary area the dealer is getting one in and they are asking $79,500. HOLY SH#T. That sure seems expensive. Is it worth it?|
|I dont think the dash needs a major overhaul.. they may want to reconsider the marine toggle switches... and go back to more conventional rocker switches... as for the layout.. it is clean and simple.. i think they need to try and match the gauge faces with each other.. go all black... i am assuming that is an upholstered dash... so it is easy to change the cosmetics... also they need to make top of the dash black.. to avoid glare and reflection... i cant see out of the wind shield with light colored dashes...|
|I was told that the boat will come in under $55K loaded with the new Merc GPS speed control - we will see. Also - the boat has 1500 lbs of ballast in hard tanks under the floors - also I hear another Tower option will be available - something like the Metcraft you see on the Mali's. Also - the wake is insane - the surf wake is even more insane!!!!!!!!!!|
|Anthony...sorry you had a bad deal with a Supreme salesperson. No salesman of any brand has a right to treat anyone like they dont have $$. All I wear to work is shorts and t-shirts. :-) |
Not too sure about the $80k in Canada. The boat will be in the $50's stateside. There is no way we could get $80k for that boat. I wouldn't pay it and I sell these boats.
I think these pictures went up a little premature as the boat is not 100% complete, but Jason and the guys at Supreme are all excited as they have built a very cool boat (even though it is not quite done) with a ton of potential, huge amounts of room, and lots of attributes that the big guys have without the cost.
|Early criticism from the public is a good thing. Yes some of the boat is still in production but with this kind of input from people supreme can really give the public what they are looking for|
|CLICK ON THE LINK AND TAKE A LOOK!!!!!!!!!!! |
I think if I want one I would go to the States!
|hahaha... Gilligan's is out to lunch there... I bought my V220 there... but won't be buying a V226 there... |
At that price... now I can comparison shop...
MC X35, MC X45, BU Wakesetter, SAN, TIGE, SVFARA... the list goes on...
Maybe there is more to the ad.... "Buy one... get the second for FREE?"
$79,900... so you would think... that you might get them down to $75,000... at $75k... I can buy any boat that I want...
Or maybe they will give you 3 Times the NADA for trade in value on all used boats... hahaha...
|Jason is dead on...criticism...constructive criticism that is... is what helps make boats and boat manufacturers better. The key is having the manufacturer listen. I know Supreme is following this post closely so post up if you have some things to say good or bad.|
|Yeah at $79k...nobody would buy it. Of course that is in Canadien, but still that price is really high! I thought I would throw in a side and transom pic since people have asked... |
|Damn that looks like the 22Deg. deadrise on my old 93 Wellcraft 202 Nova Spyder|
|I'll pitch my thoughts in, many of which will echo others. |
I don't really dig the selected color scheme. I can understand keeping the graphics simple to keep costs down. I just don't care for the color combo.
The dash definitely needs the upgrade that's been discussed. I understand things get backed up and behind schedule, but it seems surprising that this poor of an effort ever made it into the boat.
The bling on the steps is almost comically useless. Just what I want when getting done with a run is to climb on a step that's going to blister my foot in the second or so before I slip off and break my neck on the swim deck.
Playpen seating option and some rear facing supports would also be good, like behind the driver's seat or in the walkway.
|Is that wakeplate a proto too?It looks like it is not adjustable from in the boat,or are those just some new style rams?|
|These boats have Bennet Trim Tabs that are adjustable inside the cockpit - those are the manual style that you see on Centurions - Sangers - the other is optional|
|If those are Bennett rams in that picture,they are some new style.I've only seen black plastic rams on Bennetts.|
|damn 79 for that thing. if anyone is interested i'm selling my 07 RZ2 fully loaded with 120 hours on it for 52. it was my boat to use for a couple years. the boat is cheery. full factory warranties. they don't start till you sign the papers. PM me if your interested.|
|No that is the manual tab (look at the back of an Enzo - same manual tab) - the electric tab will be put on the boat before it hits the dealers -|
|OK I didn't think that was a Bennett|
|Look how deep the hull is on that boat.That has got to be one good surfwake.I however would only consider one if it came without the pickle and the foot irons. |
The dash however doesn't bother me but then again im not concerned with what people think about my boat like your average person.
|thats going to be very weight sensitive side to side.|
|Does anybody have a shot of a Avalanche's or enzo's transome...Looks the same to me...I am guessing the wake will be very similar to a centurion......|
|A LOT deeper than any Centurion!|
|The swim deck looks really tiny. That's all I'm going to say.|
|The swim platform on my 2007 V 212 is big enough to sleep on. That might just be another quick fix part to get it ready for the expo or they might have made it smaller to keep it from messing up the surf wake.|
|almost identical to the a$$ end of my typhoon, but im very impressed with it|
|My V 212 with 700lbs and 2 people puts out a really nice starboard surf wake.That boat should put out a huge surf wake.|
|I would imagine that as said earlier, with that amount of deadrise it will be very weight sensitive, but as I understand it, that should also open up the possibility of a nice surf wave. It's a nice looking boat, it will be nice to see a production model after they have worked out the kinks. I think it is great that they are offering new models. More competition in the market should be good for consumers.|
|Here ya go |
|looks like a picklefork centurion to me.|
|what's wrong with that? - and actually the Supreme has more dead rise, a different deck and different hull lines|
|Deep thoughts by Big Brandon "Uhhhhhh, Yeah-No....." What is that supposed to mean?|
|If the swim platforms on both boats sit the same distance from the water,the Supreme sits about 6" deeper in the water|
|looks a lot alike from the swim step down...Not a fan of the centurion wakes at all!! I have owned 2 so I know what I am talking about.. I have heard they wanted to make this a great wakesurfing boat.........That being said I would like to ride behind it for sure, and will keep an open mind.|
|(quote motogod77)"what's wrong with that? - and actually the Supreme has more dead rise, a different deck and different hull lines" |
Nothing. I made a statement about what I thought about the boat from looking at the characteristics and parts used in the boat from the pictures above. No need to get defensive about it.
I didn't say it looks like a piece of crap Centurion, did I? They are built in the same factory, so one would be right in stating that there would be some similarities, no? Aside form the obvious that you chose to point out about the deck and hull...more dead rise or not, you can't say that the Supreme has a very Centurion like hull design in the rear of the boat.
I see a lot of Centurion influence in that Supreme to tell you the truth, just like in every other Supreme since they went to the Fineline Factory. Hence, why I said it looks like a picklefork Centurion....
|lighten up SeaBass -|
|Easy guys...what Seabass said has validity...there are quite a few similarities between the Supreme and Centurion...he wasn't saying it was a bad thing. |
With that being said, the new Supreme will ride better than the Centurions in choppy water due to the deepness of the hull and the shear weight of the boat...no need to argue, its physics.
As far as the dead rise question goes...the Enzo comes in at 17 degrees and the new Supreme comes in at a little over 19. This helps the surf wake and the ride in chop. I am curious to see if this tends to make the boat more prone to being finicky with weight placement. Time will tell and as soon as I know, I will definitely throw the information out there.
Can't wait to wakeboard behind it to see if the wakeboarding wake is as good as the surf wake.
In my opinion...and it is only my opinion...you are looking at the new best stock wakesurfing wake in the industry.
Thanks again for all comments and keep them coming...this helps Supreme bring you guys a better boat.
|Anyone hear/ see of a picklefork MALIBU going north on 99 just north of Merced,CA. A friend said he was traveling next to one but had no camera. I called him back to see if it could have been a Supreme. He said he knows how to F...... read, and to wait and see it was a MALIBU.|
|Why doesn't Supreme have PerfectPass make the PP gauge face match the color of the silver Faria Gauges that come with their boats?|
|boat looks very nice. |
I do have to laugh though whenever I hear about a boat that is garunteed to blow another boat's wake surf or wakeboarding wake. I think most boats out there have the potential to make awesome sure and wakeboarding wakes.
I stopped at the tige dealer in calgary and was absolutely stunned after leaving. salesman bashed basically every boat out there including the one i have now saying they were all basically junk(in his own words) and bragging up the tige way too much. I realize he's a salesman(and I think part owner) but I was totally turned off. told me how the rz4 had a shoulder high surf wake (get real, even if you have a waist high wake it's so short you can't do dick all with it being so short and high) and how the tige's are built 50 times better then any other boat out there. last time I checked my boat was still in tact and hadn't broken in half.
the arse end shot of this boat and the centurion look identical to me. surpeme ain't any deeper then the centurion.
post some pics of the wakes.
|Ryan - I got the same attitude at the tige dealer in Calgary. Also the Mastercraft dealer in Calgary was the same at the Boat show. Every other dealer at the boat show talk about their product and did not bash other manufactures. But Martine Equipment that sells mastercraft basically told me that every manufacturer in boats have "NO CLUE HOW TO BUILD BOATS" only Mastercraft does. The sales person at Tige dealer told me that I wasted my money on crap. In my opinion I think that Calabria is a better product then tige or mastercraft. Sorry I just needed to vent. |
BUT I do like the look of the Supreme boats. I just can't believe the price that they are asking for the new V226
|following the surf expo show, take that new baby out on the water and sack the shyt out of it! then snap a few photos to post. word?|
|thanks Justin. I guess what I was trying to say went right over TQ's head? |
no harm no foul....
|Ryan and Rob, |
As the owner of Hyperactive Watersports it was painful to read your posts above. How you described your treatment by myself and/or my staff is completely opposite of how I have tried to build my business over the past sixteen years. I started out selling only water-ski and wakeboarding equipment and till 2001 did not sell any brand of boats. We have been one of the largest volume dealers of wake and ski gear in Canada for many years and this remains an important part of our business. The goal since we became a Tige dealer in 2001 was to represent our boats proudly but to respect our customer's boat purchase choices and the other boat brands that are available while being realistic about our representation of our products. Just because someone did not buy a boat brand we sell, we always try to still earn their business on their equipment needs.
The statements you quoted as coming from someone in my employment are nonsense and I apologize for the absurdity of how they sound and the way you were treated when you visited my dealership. No towboat company builds boats five times better than any other, let alone 50 times. No boat builds a shoulder high surf wake and anyone whom says that should be fired, taken to the middle of the lake and tossed in with cement shoes. To tell a potential customer that their current boat is crap is not likely to make them want to buy anything from us and really stupid on that salesperson's part.
Again, I am sorry for your treatment at my shop. Your postings will be shown to all current and future staff to avoid it happening again in the future. The wake community here is a small one and bad news travels fast if not corrected right away. Thanks for sharing.
(Message edited by justridin on August 29, 2008)
|Nice job JK, way to nip it in the bud.|
|JK - There is no need to fired anyone. Thank you for you apology. I have had no problems with the equipment that you sell. Your price are good and your staff overall is helpful on ropes wakeboards, I had a problem with a rope handel and your staff took good care of it. |
All the best!
|nothing went over my head - just making a comment - no issues - your point was understood I was just making a comment on the dead rise and depth - Justin 2nd that motion with the #'s|
|I kinda like the boat. i agree that the dash needs to be redone, and move the supreme to the back with different font. It will look allot better,.|
|Just to dab on to the subject dealers bashing other products before representing their own. |
I was at the Edmonton Boat Show two years back with my family, with the intent to purchase a new v-drive. We were primarily focused on the x-2, x-star, and vlx. So we happen to drop by to the Mastercraft dealer (Martin Motorsports) first. We ended up sitting in an x-star with Andrew Adkinson and one of the Martin reps. After Andrew leaves to sign some autographs, the rep asks us what else were looking at, we tell him the VLX. He sort of shakes his head, and says this: "ok, Malibu builds very weak boats, the construction of them is where the boat fails", he tells us various stories of the flooring on the boat caving in, creating little sink holes, and then says: "go to the malibu dealer, and take your hands and firmly push the side of the boat, you will see the fiberglass bending and if you pushed hard enough you would be able to permanently dent the side of the boat".
Well we walked over to the Malibu dealer, pushed the side of the boat, and nothing happened
|A good salesman has no need to bash other brands and I have never understood why they do it. Every manufacturer out there builds something that will work for somebody. The key is to find out what people are looking for (by listening) and see if the boats you sell will work for them. Plain and simple. |
As far as the Supreme logo...I agree, it needs to be moved back.
|You know its bad when the reps are talking smack on other brands. When im in the market i LOOK around and see what available. I look at options, prices, trailers, ect... ect... |
There is nothng more annoying than to start talking to a salesman and to have them start downing another product. When they start doing it i tell them well, see you later, pretty un-profesional to me. I have had it happen numerous time. Also when looking at a boat i look at the history of customer service at there facility. If you have CS then i am probably not going to buy from you. just my .2
|"The key is to find out what people are looking for (by listening) and see if the [product/service] you sell will work for them." |
The best and most successful sales guys in the world are the ones that understand this. Remarkably, they're also the ones that are the most respected and end up with the most satisfied (and REPEAT) customers. Unfortunately, most people are familiar with the sales guys that only focus on what they can close today.
|My Two cents if Supreme is listening? |
Is PP standard if not why?, Does it have center ballast? if no why? Are the rear tanks comparable in capacity with many other higher end boats?
I think, Supreme has a real opportunity to change any bad preceptions, people many have had. I have riden behind many, and owned many high end boats. Supreme makes a very good entry level boat with lots of potental. I personally think the above boat is over priced at 75k? I have a Supreme and have had very good luck with it. Supreme needs to do alot of things that come standard on other boats if they want to stay in consideration for many buyers. Look to Supra.. Those boats are loaded up for the $ and that's the direction Supreme needs to go.. Make a little less in the begining by building a strong rider support base.
Nice looking boat.. Dash weak, manual trim tab adjuster. Lame not acceptable!
|Supreme is definitely listening. |
I believe the PP will be standard on the 226. The boat will not be $75k, it will be in the 50's.
As I have said before, this is the first boat out...a "prototype" of sorts. There will be changes made etc. Keep the thoughts coming.
Greg, I agree that them making a little less in the beginning and having the boat at a lower price would set up a better base.
|The V226 will not need PP because it will have the new Mercruiser engines that have GPS based speed control - this does increase the cost over the existing Mercruiser Scorpions, however, the new engines are almost silent - CARB approved - available in 330HP and 377HP (the higher HP engine includes GPS speed control) - also they will be available with Zero Off as an option on the 330HP engine model. Rumor has it that the boat will have the Z5 Cargo Rack as an option as well - I hope so!|
|still curious what the $$$$ will be with the Z5 cargo rack, 377!|
|Honestly - 55K - 60K here in Cali LOADED|
|only thing is, here in Tx im not sure where the nearest dealer islocated. I would pimp it. For sure. Just have a few small thing to iron out with the dash and tower..... maybe a new logo as well|
|I found a few more photos at www.hillsidemotomarine.com|
|Hyperactive has always been awesome to me (edmonton). The next oppurtunity I have for a momentary lapse in judgement and want to spend all of my money on a new boat it will almost certainly be with them |
|Thisi s what I understand |
Zero off will not be available on any mercs.
You could get the Perfect Pass GPS based Star Gazer on the older Mercs but not on the
New FBW, SBW and Cat Engines only Mercury’s new GPS based speed control will work on those engines. The GPS Speed control is Smart Tow Pro is an option unless Supreme is including as a standard option
|I wonder if it is possible to have a Bennett Trim Tab.. or TAPS.. or Smart Plate... that as you lower it... it spreads wider... and as you lift it... it gets narrower... this would make for even more impact... especially on hull design like this... with such a pronounced Vee.|
|JK (justridin) I really appreciate how your responded to my reply. I can't honestly remember who I was talking to(name wise, I might have his card around here) but I'll tell you this. He did an amazing job at selling me on the boat and features of the boat and I was seriously considering making the switch. But like stated above, as soon as I heard the remarks about the other boats and especially the boat the I currently had not being in the same league as the tige and other comments, I was totally turned off. I can honestly tell you that if the comments about the other boats wouldn't have been made, I would probably have boughten a boat from ya. This would be a compliment and a plus for ya. Let the actual performance and features of your boats do the trashtalking so to say, not the sales pitch. |
Like I said, I appreciate your response and would come and talk to you again when I'm in the market for a boat. way to step up.
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|Supreme has 10 different graphic choices and 10 to 13 different colors to choose from on their current models,I'm sure that's not the only graphic that's going to be offered.|
|More graphics will be available.|
|Any new photos out there?|
|This boat is Bad Ass! Cant wait 2 ride the wave|
|Hi Justin! When will you have one for demo? I think it's a sharp boat, especially if you remove the side logo. No bash on Supreme whatsoever.|
|Fatsac...what up? How you been? You sell your low rider yet? I think they might be bringing one by the shop soon. There is only 3 made right now. Once production ramps up we should have one here. I am thinking a "murdered out" one is in order. I will definitely drop you a line when it is here.|
|I actually got a chance to go through this boat really well at surf expo, Supreme definatly has a good thing going with this new boat and I believe it's going to come in right at 60K. |
The storage in this boat is enormous, more then any other 22 footer out there that I've seen. I could sit Indian style under front storage area (under the glove box) and the rear lockers are huge as well.
The bow interior seemed to go all the way to the very front of the boat and really seems to utilize every bit of bow room that is available.
The forks arent huge or overstated and the boat seemed like it had some of the better "lines" out of all the pickle forks in my opinion.
I haven't been behind the boat so I cant comment on performance but looking at the dead rise in the front and rear it's pretty much a sure bet that it's going to ride really well through rough water and have a killer surf wake. I'd def. like to get behind one sometime.
With that said, the dash is not good looking but I believe they said that was a rush job for expo and they should look better for production. The swim platform was a little small but I believe that is being adressed as well.
|geesh, another pickle|
|Right on, Justin. Yep, the Sanger sold in July and I've been on the bike a lot lately. Definitely hit me up! I've been outta the loop for days.|
|Looks like fatsac is a tombstone fan.|
|do they not know that the pickle fork idea is tige's?|
|wasn't it MC|
|Actually I think it was MB or was it Sanger? |
|Actually old school unlimited hydroplane race boats started pickle forks around 1970.|
|Yes Jay that's true but how many of those boat makers are now making wake boats? And it was meant as a joke, although I'd love to see Sanger make a pickle fork wake boat cuz I don't care what anyone says I love em.|
|By Jos (jtnz) on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 7:19 pm:
|"Yeah at $79k...nobody would buy it. Of course that is in Canadien, but still that price is really high!" |
Hahaha, you realise the CDN is still ahead of the USD at the moment? Barely, but it's still worth more.
|Just for you Hate, Sanger Pickleforks... |
|Here we go again... the pickle fork debate. I am a new poster but when I was looking at buying my 07 RZ2, I came onto wakeworld to see what people were saying and this kind of seems like another repeat!!!|
|Jos, been a while since the canadian dollar was ahead of the u.s. dollar. we gotta pay out 1.09 for a yankee dollar now. 60000 boat is another 5400 bucks on top for exchange.|
|why is it called a pickle fork anyway?? i get pickles out of the jar with my fingers...|
|You guy are more predictable than a pedafile at a slumber party.Sanger owns the pickle in my book.|
|Wow - now we have Sanger Hydros as the new wake boat huh? You have to post some pics of you riding behind your Hydro! |
The pickle fork design is there to create more bow space and a nicer rough water ride - that's it.
|Those old Sangers are sick...|
|Those Sangers are the business I bet they would be a blast to drive. Thanks Chris! |
Brock , loved the pedophile at a slumber party comment good stuff. It reminds me of the last time I got kicked out of chuck e cheese for wearing an "as seen on to catch a predator" t shirt.
|Any of those guys with really pickleforks that wanna trade for my real wakeboard boat give my an email.|
|that first yellow boat is bad a$$. i think more boat mfg's should model their boats after hydroplane boats|
|Z5 cargo rack is now available on Supreme... |
Thought it looked sick.
|^^^^^Nice shot. |
|Can anyone spot the picklefork in this pic? |
|2nd that ^^^^^^ |
above boat looks sick! Love the Z5...any wake pictures yet. It can look, but?
|That Supreme looks pretty good in the pic above. Will be interesting to see the wake.|
|Hey Richard I will let you know - I should be able to demo the boat this week and get lots of pics - if you want to go for a ride hit me up we should have one in stock soon (Lakeport).|
|I will be taking one out this weekend or early next week. I will take pics of stock wake and loaded up to about 5000 pounds. Ill get surf pics as well. I do agree that the cargo rack bimini is an awsome addition to the boat|
|Justin, sick V226. Can you post some pictures of the wake sacked out? Let's see what that bad boy can do...|
|That 226 with the Z5 looks awesome! |
Look forward to seeing more pictures and reviews.
|for a supreme, this boat is bad. (in a good way) Im an MC owner and i must say all theese other manufactures are really stepping it up, maybe copying a little (ha ha) but hey, clean boat and i want to see pics of the wake. the hull does scare me a bit Callen. Same as MB/ CEnturion it looks like, Small, Hard and poppy wake, at least that was what most of the riders were sayin at DRA.|
|That boat looks even better sitting in the water. I am a big fan of the Z5 cargo rack on any boat so props to Supreme for offering it up.|
|unfortunately i dont have any pics to vouch for this but i got the chance to ride behind the new 226 and i am pretty stoked on the outcome. the wakeboard wake is kind of a combination of the x-star wake and a malibu lsv. its firm and round like the x-star but super clean and bubble free like the malibu. with only stock ballast i was pleasantly surprised on the size with the boat being as big as it is....as far as the surf wake goes, the area that you are able to actually surf is the longest i have seen out of any boat, mind you i have only surfed behind a bu lsv and vlx,and an xstar. it was big and clean with a very thick and solid wave. i cant wait to get out and really weight one of these boats down.|
|Is it me, or does it look like they forgot to put cleats on the boat?|
|no chad your right. they did not put cleats on the black and red boat pictured but they will have cleats on the production models. the second boat they have out now has pop up cleats installed and im sure by now the red and black one has them as well. that boat was the very first made, so a lot of the minor accessories were not done|
|oh i forgot to mention that we were able to surf up to about 17 mph behind this boat, and that is with very minimal weight.|
|Jason - seen the pic of you surfin behind that beast. Surf wake looks HUGE.|
|yea and we didnt even have hardly any weight in the boat|
|i dont know bout anyone else but that color combo on this blue and black boat is just damn sexy on this boat. the lighting is bad but you can see how the lower blue stripe comes to a v up on the bow, pretty sick|
|I was fortunate enough to see a pic of the surf wake as well let me just say " freakin huge". This will be king of the surf boats. Good job Supreme.|
|Where is this fabled pic?|
|This is only stock ballast and one 500lb sack! |
|Looks awesome but also on a turn. Is it?|
|Nope. No turning. Going straight down the sleu in the delta|
|Post some wake photos already.....|
|i dont think that there were any pics taken of the wakeboard wake that day. next time we get it out we will make sure to post some pics|
|How many sumo wrestlers are on board?|
|i think we had 10 sumos, 3 elephants, and one whale shark|
|Come on I know there was a hippo in there too.|
|The hippo was not feeling good that day so Callen had to bring the whale shark in.... |
|Here you go on the wake (I will try and get some better photos this evening). Stock ballast and 3 people in the boat. This pic really doesn't do it justice - the lip is great, great size, and smooth transition through the trough. |
|i will have to say that is one killer looking surf wake to do this pic justice a while back we surfed the crusher at the first DRA and moved all the weight to make it perfect for surfing and lets just say that that surf wake is about 2 feet bigger then the outcome of the X-Stars surf wake just my .02 but it looks like supreme is coming out with a boat to contend gunna be sick|
|Both the surf wake and the normal wake look great. Not sure I did the boat but love the rampyness of the wake.|
|weve got a v232 and the wake behind that is sick |
surf wake looks just like this stock and the wakeboarding wake is comparable
|wow! The wake looks awesome. Especially for stock.|
|wow, coming from j-rod, mr x star...hahahaha. yes the wake is nice. cant wait to get that baby loaded to the gills and see what she can really do|
|Calin... Would love to see the wake behind your V232.... In my opinion... I couldnt get anything for a wake out of the V230/232 Same hull. |
I have a V220... and as for the V230/232... I have told everyone... If you want a wake... don't even bother with 230/232...
So if you have a wake.. I would like to see some pics... and how you weight it...
|Very nice I'll give those wakes some love... But sorry man that dash looks cheasy as a mofo... |
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(Message edited by 05mobiuslsv on October 15, 2008)
|the dash is going to be completely different from what is pictured above. that picture was just to give you an idea of the layout in the boat. they just put the dash together like that so they could do some R&D work without wires hangin out everywhere and for the surf expo|
|I have a V232 and with tanks full and three people in the corner the wake is no where close to that .gonna take a long look at this model at the spring boat shows|
|Jason good to know thanks for clearing that up..|
|Yikes the lip on that wake looks pretty thin, does this boat have an adjustable trim plate option?|
|yes it does have an adjustable plate. also keep in mind that boat only has rear tanks installed which are only about 250 lbs each|
|Here are a few from last night! |
|The top of the wake does look thin, but it looks to me that there is a solid foundation for a monster wake using more weight and faster speeds. |
Keep us posted on the completely-barely get on plane-totally slammed version.
|After running this boat for a while - it completely closes the deal. Absolutely the best rough water riding boat I have been in (minus maybe an X80), more room than most 23+ foot boats, room for 9 boards STOCK (with the cargo rack), huge wake surf, huge/clean wakeboard wake, tons of storage, and then add the new Mercruiser DTS motor with GPS and cleaner emmisions for surfing and a great price - AWESOME BOAT!!!!! |
|Dude,that looks amazing. I can't wait to try one out. Where is Mr. Nead at??|
|Wakeboard wake looks pretty good. Anymore photos with weight? I think everyone agrees that the surf wake is killer.|
|Anyone who wants to try one out (here in Northern Cali) let me know - I have one here, but I think it is on its way to its new home tomorrow - there will be more following soon!|
|What up Fatsac? If what I have been told is true...I will have one at the shop tomorrow. What does your schedule look like tomorrow?|
|Shweet! I'll be in Washington until Monday but what about next week?|
|Very intriguing photos indeed.|
|Any more pics of the production model dashes.. any signigicant changes... |
Can someone post some more detailed pics of interior.. storage areas... dash... etc...
Also... more pics of wakeboard and surf wake.. with description as to weight and speeds...
|Here are just a few - check my website at http://www.hillside-honda.com/photogallery/ for better shots that you can view in a slideshow or come take a look in person (oh yeah I am only 100' from the water) |
|That wake looks nice. Might have to get over and check one of these out.|
|Ugh, sorry the wake looks great, book looks good, dash is HURTIN!|
|That is still not a productin dash. They are still making a bunch of changes|
|In that case good looking boat. Wasnt trying to hate, but you have to admit, the dash as of now is horrible. Once they change that it should be a pretty desirable boat|
|Wheres the fill/drain ballast guages? I know in the 220's theyre under the dash off to the side but I cant see them in this picture|
|There are no ballast gauges, Supreme did away them a couple of years ago and went with independent fill/drain pumps that over-fill out the side letting you know that they are either full or empty. The dash will look a lot better with the Mercruiser Smartcraft guages (standard with the new DTS CAT motors) with optional GPS speed control and launch control. On top of that the labels are CNC's engraved into the billet dash - you just can't see them in the photo - the dash looks good in person and even better at night.|