|Anyone have any experience with the new Malibu 21' XTI. (Direct Drive with rap around seating in back) I'm looking to either buy the 03' XTI or the 02' X-Star. The X-Star is about $3,000 more expensive. What do you think? I need a big wake! Will the XTI get it done?|
|XTI is on the same hull as the VLX. It will get the job done. Check out malibuboatowners.com and search it. There is an excellent discussion/discription on the hulls there. |
|The XTI is the same hull as the VLX but since it has the goofy seating you are more limited in adding extra ballast comfortably. It also does not have the rear MLS so once again there is a disadvantage. The WS VLX is THE way to go with a Malibu if you are talking about competing with the wake of an X-Star (X-2)|
|Check out this discussion: |
It is XTI vs. VLX. The conlusion was VLX
|Does anyone have personal experience with both boats? The XTI has the same hull as the VLX. The engine is forward, but the gas tank is moved back. With a couple of fat friends I think it could be comparable. It seems that the XTI would more evenly distribute the weight and could potentially make a better wake (with enough friends).|
|I would like to hear some X-star complaints. I can't think of any, but I'm sure that there are some (other than $).|
|FYI- VLX & XTI have two different hulls. I believe the XTI hull is designed to have a better water ski wake at ski speeds, and a better riding wake at slower speeds. Its a 'tweener.|
|It depends which model Dub, |
The 21 XTI rides on the SV23 the same as the VLX. The 23 XTI rides on the SV25 Dimond which is the "'tweener"
|If you get the wakesetter 21xti it is the same hull as the wakesetter vlx (sv23) if you just get the xti then it is the sv23 diamond hull|
|My bad, was thinking of last years WS23 XTI, forgot they got the new WS21 XTI this year. |
|Greg, the wakesetter 21 XTI does have the same hull as the WK VLX. If you are are wakeboarding 100% time of the time the VLX is the one. I'm thinking about switching to the Wk 21 XTI because I like to ski ocassionally and don't take a lot of people out typically. The Wk 21 XTi is a killer boat and offers a lot of fun in the short time I've spent in it. There is quite a bit of storage in the back area, so lead or smaller sacs are totally possible and it's a lot of fun to ride in the way back. |
X-star, small interior, and flat bottom = rough ride = outdated early 90's hull design, IMO. P.S. I've put one on the beach,loaded up going around a turn island, you can figure out the rest.
have fun shopping
|The X-Star/X-2 hull was created in 1998, 5 years old yes, but outdated - guess it depends on your definition. At any rate, that hull does result in a rather narrow boat, but plenty of room for 5 or 6 people. What the hull does (and is probably most important here) is create a big wake with a great shape and a nice transition with a lip that'll kick you as high as you want to go. It also handles great and the boat drives as smooth as butter.|
|P.S. ANY boat has the potential to chine lock and end up on the beach if it is loaded up enough. When a boat (not just an X-Star) has enough weight in it and it's turning, so much of the side of the boat is far enough in the water that the rudder is rendered useless. The chine of the boat becomes the actual running surface. You can turn the wheel all you want and nothing will happen. To stay off the beach just back off the throttle a litte bit and the boat will turn, any boat. |
|I would be concerned about weighting the Xti. Where are you going to put fat sacs? That would be the main issue along with the hull. If it's the Diamond hull your wake will be a lot different than the VLX. |
In my opinion there is no comparison- go with the xstar. Now if you were comparing the VLX to the Xstar it would be a toss up.
|I've had an 02X for almost a year now and have never had any problems with the chine lock. We usually ride with the stock Triple KGB, one 500-lb sack on each side of the engine and a 700-lb sac in the bow + 3 or 4 riders. The boat takes a little while longer to plane out but the wake is incredible. THe only problem I've ever had with my boat is the ballast pump problem but it's a warranty item which has been taken care of.|
|X-Star wake > *|
|I have to agree with Rene!! |
If you read any of his earlier posts, you will relize that to question what he recomends is just wrong!!
X-Star wake, it is!