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By Tom Barnard (tlb) on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 4:30 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Anything new with Epic boats lately? Not much has been said recently..
I was curious what the new tower looks like..

By entrust clothing (entrustclothing) on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 4:42 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
they have a big ad in the new wakeboarding mag and it shows a new tower, so i went to their site and it's still the same old stuff from last year
By Cody boseman (polkaking27) on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 4:48 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
If anyone is going to the anaheim boat show, from what I hear you will see the new production model with the new tower. But maybe Adam or Chris can clear everything up on here
By Steve Amestoy (stevev210) on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 5:43 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Epic Boats is pulling the first A.W.A tourny this weekend at Lake Pleasent in AZ, Ill be there and let you guys know what I find out.
By Chris Anthony (cla17) on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:14 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
It has been a slow roll into production, but we are finally pulling all the pieces together and pushing boats through the pipe. We won't be at full tilt production util sometime in June but we are getting some promo boats out and a couple to our first dealers to take people out and show them what the 23v is like on the water. Everything has come together nicely and I think most will be very pleased with our boats. Performance, maintanability, and ease of use make the 23v a great ride. And with all the new tech stuff we have packed in our standard boats the low price comparatively will surprise most people. I'll be at the Anaheim boat show and Adam will be in AZ to support the AWA event. Both will be a great time and a good place to see our new 23v C-ya there :-)
By GD (greatdane) on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:21 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I am wondering why your first boat is 23'?

Aren't 21' boats more mainstream?

I know that that is all that I am interested in.

By Tom Barnard (tlb) on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 9:15 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Chris, I'm sure you've answered this before but is a 21 ft boat on the horizon?
I didn't get a copy of WB magazine, I guess my subscription ran out, can you post a pic of the new tower?

By C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod) on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 9:35 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I would say the trend is towards bigger boats, even though I feel the same as Dane.

Furthermore, I believe the trend is towards 23' boats that make wakes as easily and efficiently as 21' boats.

By Jon (jon4pres) on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 9:39 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
If I remember correctly Epic said that there next boat would be a 20 or 21. I have no need for a 23 either.
By Bocephus (bocephus) on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 10:13 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
One is listed for sale here in AZ on the front of the Boat Trader with a local number...
By Jon (jon4pres) on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 10:24 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Do you have a link? The front page changes. I am guessing that it is a Toyota Epic not a Epic 23v.
By Ant Bug (antbug) on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 10:46 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I got some good pics of the wake. Anyone want to see them?

Jon is correct the next Epic will be a 21'

By Jeremy Krenek (crowmobe540) on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 10:48 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I do. post them or send them to me pleeeeeeaaaaasssssseeeeee
By Daniel O'Callaghan (greenthumb) on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 11:13 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Yeah for sure Bug, let's see the pics.
By leo lasecki (malibuboarder75) on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 4:29 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I would rather have a 21ft with 2500lbs of stock ballast, then a 23ft with 4000lbs of stock ballast.
By Bocephus (bocephus) on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 5:01 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
All I can say is that they should come with some Unical, Texaco or some type of other oil company stock. 23', 4000#'s of ballast and an 8.1, you are going to need something to offset your fuel costs...
By GD (greatdane) on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 1:57 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I hit the water with 4 (70%), 5 (20%) or 6 (9%) people on the boat. So, I really see NO need to pay for pushing a bigger boat around.

More gas. Harder to sink. Harder to tow. Harder to turn. Harder to store in a garage. Its a total negative for me.

By leo lasecki (malibuboarder75) on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 9:54 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I agree GD. I see no reason why you need a 23ft boat to wakeboard behind. My next boat is also going to be a 20~ft boat. Hopefully a v-drive.
By Mattato (mattyboyr6) on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 12:59 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I was at the AWA tourney and will post up a few pics after I resize them
By brian lionel (lionel) on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 1:50 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Mattato, looking forward to the pics.....
By Chris Anthony (cla17) on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 3:05 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I feel everyone's need for a smaller boat and know that our 21'(coming out later this season) will be a hot seller and great for small lakes and people who want save even more gas when towing (over our already super light 23' at 3000lbs). And dam AntBug, post some pics already...You BIG tease :-)
By Cody boseman (polkaking27) on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 8:32 am:    Edit Post Delete Post

Any pics yet?

By Todd (goodtime) on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 7:34 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post

whats up canadian. Dont forget a homey in sd.
New ad looks good, last one was hurting. Cheers pal

By Mattato (mattyboyr6) on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 10:26 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Had to instal a radiator so it took me a while longer to post but here are the pics. Uploading these I noticed I really need to take the time to cut more out. But oh well have at em.


By oscar (zacky) on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 12:03 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Somebody has one for sale...


By oscar (zacky) on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 12:05 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
There's a good wake pic in that ad too...
By Robbie Hamilton (gandr_nautique) on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 12:55 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Can anyone post more pics. In ireland here and would love to see how it looks.

By Mattato (mattyboyr6) on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 4:47 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Wow glad to see that they are using my pictures to sell thier boat. I feel a little violated and dirty now.

The rider looks like Jimmy Wolf out here at Bartlett, but I could be wrong.

By Cody boseman (polkaking27) on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 9:27 am:    Edit Post Delete Post

I'm pretty sure those are not your pics. The rider is Reed Watson. If you look at www.epicboats.com they have the same pic under the rider section.

On another note... thanks for posting your pics you did a good job shooting. Were you in the boat for the outlaw division and nothing else? What divisions did they use the epic for?

By Jeff Vaaler (jcv) on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 9:31 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
that's a BIG, steep wake. i'm impressed
By Chris Cameron (cece) on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 9:55 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
We actually used the Session for the Outlaw division. Don't ask, it's a sore subject. The Epic pulled the Women's, Advanced, and Novice divisions. I rode behind it in the women's division. I was surprised by how high I got launched by the wake. I wasn't being aggressive TS (fear from an injury) and I was still getting mad air. A couple of our Outlaw riders rode it yesterday. I heard only great things from one of them about the wake.

By Cody boseman (polkaking27) on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 10:29 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Thats weird I thought the Epic would be pulling the outlaw for sure, especially since that Session only has the 3 tank ballast. Was there any extra ballast in it?
By Chris Cameron (cece) on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 10:42 am:    Edit Post Delete Post

The Epic was supposed to pull the Outlaw division. There wasn't any extra ballast in the Session, except for some bodies. I could go into a big long story about what happened and everything, but I would just get pissed off again. Like I said, it's a sore subject for me.

By Tom Barnard (tlb) on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 11:27 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I thought the boat had a new tower design...
That looks like the same one it's always had..


By Cody boseman (polkaking27) on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 11:44 am:    Edit Post Delete Post

Sorry to bring it back up then. Its too bad there was no extra ballast because the Session really throws an awesome wake when you get about 1200-1500 lbs plus a couple of bodies. Owell.

I don't think they have really released any pics of the new tower design. I think they are kind of introducing it this weekend at the Anaheim Boat show, and I'll be sure to take lots of pics. There is a pic in the new wakeboarding mag, but it is really hard to get detail because it is supposed to hold you suspense I think.

By Mattato (mattyboyr6) on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 5:41 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I was only in the boat for the outlaw. I know I should have gotten in the boat for some of the other divisions but wanted some shots of rider and boat together.

(Message edited by MattyBoyR6 on April 04, 2006)

By Chris Anthony (cla17) on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 11:39 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Sweet pics Mattato. We owe you big for such nice shots. I wish I was there for the event but I have my head buried in the details of bring this boat to full production in just a couple more weeks here. This boat was real "raw" and was juuuussssstttt finished in time to rush it down to the event. I am just stoked to be able to support the AWA event and get such a positive response from people who got to ride behind her and all. Also, did anyone notice the camera on the tower? I can't wait to see some video from it :-) And the black boat looks awesome with that dark interior, maybe a bit HOT in the AZ sun but it sure does look nice from a distance :-)
By Mattato (mattyboyr6) on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 5:17 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
The tower mount cam was one of the first things I noticed. I also noticed it was hooked up to a 5or 6in monitor as the rear view mirror. Someone else out there had a video camera on the boat. Hopefully he will put somethign together as well.

I still need to get behind this boat. Should have entered the comp but the didnt have a Crappy division.

Chris your welcome for the pics. Just think of me when its time to update your ad.

By Jeff Walker (surfdad) on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 7:45 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Has anyone surfed behind the Epic, as yet? Would love to see pictures of the wake with the boat weighted for surfing and moving at 10 +/- mph.

By Chris Anthony (cla17) on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 11:26 am:    Edit Post Delete Post

By Steve (kingskrew) on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 1:33 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Wow that looks very tall! Hard to tell how long it is from that angle. Is that with or without a swin step? Almost looks too clean to have a swimstep there. Looks like a lot of fun cant wait to get a ride behind one


By Chris Anthony (cla17) on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 2:49 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Thats with the swim step. We had to change the dam thing 3 times to get er just right for the surf but it works well. And with the standard defused exhaust or the upgraded side exhaust you never have to worry about co2 in your face :-)
By Chris Murray (wakedood) on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 3:40 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Awesome. I don't wakesurf, but that shot makes me want ta give it a try...
By Mattato (mattyboyr6) on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 6:01 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
So the side exhaust is an option? I thought it was standard
By Jeff Walker (surfdad) on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 7:47 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
That's a not a bad looking wake, a bit steep and it looks like the pocket is pretty tight, but that can be fiddled with a bit of bow weight, or maybe just a bit less weight overall and some speed adjustment. That's on the starboard side too, is the port side is better?

We get this wake with 1300 pounds of ballast, custom sac, pumps all over the place, and it looks like the Epic can give a decent wake and STILL leave storage. Very nice.

Dennis, if you're reading this, we need to get that demo ride with the new Rancho Dealer before month end, ok buddy?


By GD (greatdane) on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 12:08 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Chris, I have a feeling that you can do a lot better than that wake surf marketing shot! We have the rub rail of my BU in the water here!


By Jeff Walker (surfdad) on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 7:27 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Nice wake GD, I didn't want to see a tweaked version of the wake. Currently even the "king" of wakesurfing platforms, the Enzo requires that you remove the hard tank, remove the divider, purchase a custom Fat Sac and to get a decent fill time, toss a Tsunami pump over the side along with the factory pump. On my Tige 23V I lose all of the storage on the port side (which means boards strewn all over the place) when I fill the sac, plus it requires a custom sac and a custom after-market pump. Both of those boats do not produce much of a surf wake without extensive modification or extra ballast...even your BU no doubt has a ton of extra ballast.

The Pic's of the Epic are what's capable from the factory! It would appear to be a great platform to start with. Keeping in mind that it would appear it's got a bit too much rear bias in it's standard factory configuration for wakesurfing. It looks very promising.

By Chris Anthony (cla17) on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 10:33 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Sorry to be short but I'll fill it in quick(I'm at a the LA boat show now :-) The side exhast is great but too loud(and burrly) for some. The defused exhaust is out the bottom of the boat and does well at removing co2 and such. The side exhaust is a $750 add on. The surf looks great to me(but I have only surfed a few time... I've been too dam busy building these thing to really enjoy and test them. I know it can be weighted a lot better but we haven't had the time to really test it out. Those pics were the first day we ever surfed in it and a friend just had a camera. To me it seems the surf will be really aggresive(just because of the style of hull I created). From the preliminary test I think is will go from really aggressive to some what tame with little adjustability to the medium :-( Maybe I am wrong and we just need to learn how to weight it...The freeboard is HUGE on this boat though. If we sunk it to the rail that would be one hell of a WAVE :-)

Sorry to be short...back to work :-)

By GD (greatdane) on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 11:35 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Chris, I am sure your surf wake can be made huge. Ever thought about left/right trim tabs to boost the surf wake (among other things)? I have thought about bolting tabs on my BU for this purpose (although I really on need one side).
By jonny (midwesty) on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 12:16 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
until the tower gets changed and some legit pics get posted i think this boat is doomed like the others. also the fact of going from 40k to almost 60k is not helping
By Ryan Rantz (airrantz) on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 8:01 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Pulling an AWA tournament with a boat fresh off the assembly line seems legit to me. Titan tower and all.
By Tom Barnard (tlb) on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 10:02 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Chris, Could we get a picture of the new tower from the boat show?
this is the last time I'm going to ask...

By matt idoine (theoneandonly) on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 4:01 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
there is a pic of one with the new tower in the new issue of wbm i went to the anaheim show seems like a sweet boat hope the company does great.

By eric fox (fox) on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 6:20 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
New tower in the Wakeboarding Mag reminds me of the ones put on the MB's...very BOSS accessories styled. Very cool.
By Cody boseman (polkaking27) on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 8:59 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I posted pics in another thread in the boat and accessories area if anyone is interested!
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