|My sanger v230 has a small system I have 6 JL Auido 12w6v2 for subs 2 JL 1000/1 4 JL 300/2 for amps 2 monitors 1 10" drop down and 1 7.2 at the drivers dash with a camera in the back for wakeboarding instead of a mirror a ps2,10 6 volt golf kart batteries all my amps are watercooled 1/2 copper is going through the heat sinks to keep them cool it takes lake water in and go through the amps and gose bake into the lake and last but not lest the f------ loudest and cleanest sounding tower speakers around the new WETSOUNDS.com I have 1 pair of the pro 485 and they are very loud the sound that this speakers put out are bitchen check them out @wetsounds.com |
|I can smell the sarcasm from here!|
|Sounds like a cool setup, very interesting cooling system. Where are the batteries, that's 600+ pounds of weight! |
What is pumping the water through the cooling system? Is it thermostatically controlled? How are you handling the galvanic corrosion between the dissimilar metals? Is there a heat exchanger in the mix?
Aluminum + Copper + flowing water = corrosion
That's the primary reason why boats with aluminum heads have closed cooling systems.
|I was wondering how those speakers performed. But for some reason I'm having a hard time taking your word for it. |
If you were trying to help your friends at wetsounds....you didn't.
|I like Charles post!!!|
|Ryan....is that you?|
|no i dont know the people at wetsounds they just have a great speaker combo going on i saw them the first time at the LA boat show|
|First put more power to those 12W6V2s, second I don't trust you, third post some pictures, fourth don't promote through newbies on a website, promote through demos. People will decide real quick if it's the loudest and cleanest tower setup around, and word will spread. |
|Maybe now you cant hear the other guys in the boat laughing at how small you go. Cool now you feel good about your stereo. I hate guys that try to show off with noise. Try riding better!!!! |
|Chris P, |
Spend a few minutes reading through some of the posts on this forum. You will find lots of posting's on people's new stereo system/boat accessories whatever. IMO nothing wrong with sharing a radical stereo set up, I for one love boat audio and am always interested to see other people's set ups. The difference I think is in how their posts read. Most of the folks on here are stoked to SHARE their experiences with like minded people. The way your post is worded sounds more like a brag/plug then a fellow wakeboarder stoked about his new system. Just my 2c.
|Toss in a period or two for good measure next time. |
|Ben K |
Thanks,I am just stoked that i finished my system after about 3 months of 5,6 hours a day thanks again for your info .Iwill be puting pics on today
Great to hear, I can't wait to see them
|wow.... uhhhh cant wait to see the pics! |
|take a bunch of them, we cant get enough|
|3 months at 5 hours a day??? |
These pictures better be great if you spent that much time on this project.
|That's what I was thinkin jon|
|here are some pics from old to new |
|so I picked just some of the pics of the install and if anyone whats more detailed pics let me know|
|are you f'ing kidding me? |
|HOLY SHIZZLE!! thats nuts.. so you like the wet sounds?? did you actually cut a hole in the floor or is it a false floor?? id love to see this thing in person..nice work |
i think you shut some of us up lol
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|Looks nice and clean, I think the amps in the floor and the covers for the sub's is a neat concept. |
With all of that custom work how come you didn't do something with the batteries and the drivers screen?
|My name is Evan and I like to wakeboard. What do you do with your wakeboat? |
Creative, but seriously????? How bad does it list to the left with all those batteries in there?
|Do you have what we call, fcuk you money or what dude? That is a bitchin set up fo sho! |
Dude, when i first read the post i thought it was a joke also but ddddddaaaaaammmmmmmmmmm!
Good work man!
|A couple o steel plates on the drivers side and no more ballast needed. |
|I see it now, a bunch of hater posts will soon follow because people will question his riding ability and call poser and all that stuff. I say good on ya, the ride looks sick. And you can cancel listing with ballast.|
|where is your low rider?|
That is one WILD set up. If you are ever in Nor Cal, please hit me up, I would love to check that out in person. Cheers
|no twenties on the trailer|
|where do you hide beer from the water patrol|
|greenthumb, that is exactly whats going to happen. I hope you have some pics of yourself do some sick hoochies glides or sumptin. But then you will hear how lame raley tricks are, so you wont win this one but i give it props.|
|Chris-Im diggin the install ! The floor cutout is great idea. Im curious about your water cooling system for the amps-Can you post some pics ? |
|Very nice Chris!! That is an insane stereo setup. Im glad to see that you put everyone in their place by postin pic's. Im tired of everyone asuming posts like these are fake. Props on the system again. I would be interested to see what kind of db's you have at riding distance.|
|Way to go Chris - nice work. |
Does the glare wash out the driver side LCD? Maybe you need one o these...
|the first photo is in havasu with my old set up |
all the others are from last night
|where can i get one of those at|
|this is great, we have not seen an "unpractical" system in years. I can't wait to read about all the comments this thread is going to create. |
I like the cut out floor, and the idea about the camera.
Overall... sweet install, from the drivers seat back.
|Oh, sorry. |
That's the guys that make the Trakker, http://www.wakevideo.com
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Sweet install!!! How much power to each pro 480?
|Just plain sick innovation. Funny how some people got to chime in negatively. I believed it myself. I tend to give people the benifit of the doubt... until they prove me wrong! Nice job Chris, not to mention a sweet boat also.|
|Ummm.........Where does the ballast go again? Not a hater post, great creative install! A little over the top for me, but then again it's not my boat. These are our babies and we dump so much money into them to make them unique and ours. He likes to hear "ear damaging" music and that's great. Props on the install. The usefulness has been taken out of the boat to an extent, but it all depends where all our interests lie. Personally, I find it more creative to find ways to install a huge system and still keep all the amenities of a boat that make it a wakeboard boat. Minimize storage loss, protect the components from the elements as well as from a wave that comes up over the bow, and keep all space used for ballast. Do that and then I will be salavating to have it. Again, not to discount this install because it really is SICK!!! Love the floor install look. |
|How many Fetzer valves are you running in that bad boy?|
|Are the amps on the floor somehow protected from a big roller going over the bow, or even from someone who would dare drip on it after a ride? A small amount of water can make some nice sparks. |
I thought for sure this was the start of some lame post. Thanks for sharing your setup! 'ya herd me' sounds like a pretty accurate name.
|Imagine if Chris and Grant teamed up. That would be one hell of a sound system/light show. I dunno what we would call it? Maybe the "Money Pit"?|
|Props for your hard work and dedication, I could never spend that much time working on an audio setup for a boat. If you are interested in doing this as a profession, or already are an installer; thats a great business card/resume! |
|Thanks for the positive feedback.|
|I was wondering how this lame sounding post had 48 posts all of a sudden… I would love to take that boat out early in the morning and just totally piss off some bass fishermen!!! Nice work |
You live in Cali, you should come to the spring ride on April 7th!
|One flaw... where does player 2 sit? |
|on the other side of me where is the spring ride at|
|Lake Tulloch, I think East of Stockton in the foothills. Guys where is it exactly? I figure I would mapquest it a couple of days before the trip. If the weather is good, I am there for sure. Check out the thread under "Events" |
|So does the rope snag the tower speakers or what? I know sometimes I can cut pretty far out and it looks like the might run into a little snag. Props on the boat that thing is way over the top. I'd say its off the chain, and yes indeed, iherdya.|
|Good point on the rope. If I were to make one change on that setup, it would be to drop those speakers under the tower, it's just my opinion. |
|Way to go mobiletint man looks awesome and like a whole lot of tedious work. Great job. It looks like the rope will hit to me also. But custom work sometimes means a little wrinkel or two!|
|I have 1 more pair of pro 485's coming next week they will also go on the tower.1 will fire forward so boaters can hear me and 1 more will fire back |
|Your boat is truly amazing. It all looks clean too. |
How are you keeping the amps under the floor dry?
What is the purpose of the hump in the middle of the sundeck?
Do you have any ballast?
again, Crazy boat and great install.
|nice work. where are the rest of the batteries? I don't think there is room, but is there another rack in front on the one in the pic? like the plexi floor.|
|The subs in the ski lockers appear to be band-pass boxes. If so, where does the enclosure vent to? |
|That is not a hump, the rear locker doors are open creating the illusion of a hump. I had to look at them again to notice this.|
|Claiming a system without sharing pics was a stroke of genius! Bring out the doubters & haters and then WHAM! Sure looks like your pics validate everything you stated. |
(the following is not an endorsement or advertisement)
I had an opportunity to meet Tim from Wet Sounds yesterday here in Dallas. He mentioned this post and how some started out thinking it was a joke thread. The way he tells it, you met his partner (?) at the LA Boat Show and ordered a set on the spot. He was telling me how stoked he was to get these to you as soon as his shipment came in and then this post blows up. Too funny.
|WakeSpecialty - It looks like a stroke of genius, but that almost seems devious, when in fact it looks like he didn't plan it that way but really was just stoked. |
If you check out the post below, you see he didn't know how to resize the pics.
Count me among the jaded "doubters" who are happy to have been wrong...
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|Bocephus - you asking me why, or why what?|
|word skip - i didn't really believe it was deliberate. it does surprise me how quick some are to mock & ridicule. props to Chris for not listening to the negative and bringing some creativity and inspiration - |
|Not mocking or ridiculing, but am curious as to why someone would do such a thing. The craftsmanship and install looks really nice. I'm not stereo savy though, is it for advertising purposes? I know on the local lakes around here anything that can be heard to from the Ranger or Johnny Law's boat is to loud and they come over with lights a blazin and write you a ticket for and then start nosin' around looking for other stuff to site you for. I will admit it would be a really good boat for either the Parker Strip or Havasu.|
|Wow, impressive. Is it bad that I want to piss some fishermen off with that thing? |
|We hit Parker or Havasu 2 times a month, so that's when we really get to enjoy what we've got. Anyone see me at either place, don't hesitate, come up and have a beer. Nacho, the rest of the batteries are in front of the drivers seat. Talltieguy, the amps are protected by a 1/4 in. 4x6 sheet of plexi, the whole setup is 100% water-proofed. Yes, the boxes are bandpass enclosures. |
Props to you for doing something creative on your own and not getting put off by some of the discouraging posts. It appears that you are more into hanging out on the boat than actually riding, no issues here, lots of my friends do the same. Personally I like a little more functionality and preservation of storage space, but that's my boat.
The only real criticism I have is your disregard for fellow boaters with your intention to piss off fishermen. I like to ride with tunes and hope to continue without fear of legal reprocussion. If too many of us take on an abusive attitude with our strong sound systems it is only a matter of time before legislation gets passed and sherriffs start carrying db meters so they can give tickets.
Hope you get every bit of enjoyment out of the boat that you desire, but please don't try to piss off too many fellow boaters.
Keep the peace...
|Not very many fisherman on Parker, LOL, it's more of crazy, speed, party scene. I have personally seen two drunken xxxxxxx drive thier boats into the damn down there, it's crazy! I use to take my old jet boat down there every weekend. We usually put in at bullhead and rode all the way to the damn.|
|I was going to say, I thought I saw you at parker last year Memorial Day...You going again this year?|
Nice post, and good point about no need to disregard fellow boaters. But it was Cody who made what was (probably) a joke about pissing off fishermen....
|See what you can do with all the money you save buying a Sanger . Thanks for posting pics, I'm still curious to see the water cooling system on the amps in more detail. Pointing a tower speaker pod forward seems pointless to me, but if the object is for everyone on the lake to hear you then I guess it makes sense. I probably would have worded the first post as less of a sales pitch for Wetsounds and you would have gotten a better response. |
|I have the most respect for all boaters.I'm always respectful to everyone. If I'm asked to change or turn down the music I always do out of respect |
|Wow, that is seriously the craziest set up i have ever seen. Nice. Do you mind if I ask...how much did all of that cost?|
|I have about 20 g's in my system|
|WOW? Is that a misprint on the 20g???|
|no retail is about 20 g's|
|Do you have an idea of how many hours it took? It's very impressive.|
|I have about 1200 hours in right now but there is more to come|
|Chris, my math isn't the best, but 1200 hours? At 6 hours a day, even 7 days a week, that is nearly 30 weeks - not the 3 months you mentioned earlier. |
Does the 1200 hours count other stuff on the boat or previous versions of the system, or is that just a WAG???
|Well there were days wair I put all day in 10/12 hours.|
|So do you work at all or just spend money? Becuase I could always use a little extra help, lol. |
|Yes, I work. I own a window tinting shop in Palmdale Ca.|
|Skip, people like you annoy the hell out of me. |
Why don't you give the guy a compliment for creativity and doing something no one else has done, instead of waisting everyone's time on your silly little math equation, trying to find some sort of negativity in bringing this guys stoke down.
|Chris. first I want to say NIIIIIIIIIICE. Second do you have any pics of the install in progress. Be very interested in seeing those. I'm w/ Denny where do you hide the beer? |
| We have 3 built in ice chests on the boat. Perfect for beer hiding. How good is the spring ride you guys were talking about?|
|check out the link below |
|Shawn, sorry if my tone sounded negative to you. It's a long post, so you probably didn't notice I complimented him once and stuck up for him twice already on the post. I was just curious about how accurate his estimate was. |
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|Skip, no worries... I re-read the post and i apologize for singling you out! People just always seem to find a way to point out something negative about something so out of the ordinary.|
|Chirs, in response to you question about the spring ride, check out the two links. I have never been but after reading the two posts below, I am there for sure this year! |
|Anyone have photo from last year's spring ride |
|Chris, after this post, you might want to seriously consider installing a new security system in your house... or hiring full-time security staff.|
|OMG I love the back of your boat...YA HEARD ME ha ha ha|
|I have a great security system on my house.I am also installing a security system with remote start on the boat.|
|That is amazing, the in floor amp rack is sweet. |
|Thanks. I have a lot of time and thought in the hole set up|
I'll chime in as I think the install is awesome as well. It definetly takes some balls to be putting high current electronics under the floor of a wake boat.
|Thanks Duane,keep in mined all the amps are sitting on the fuel tank.|
|Ive heard some loud systems in the past couple of summers, but Im looking (listening?) forward to running across yours at Castaic or the river. Very nice|
What do you think of the tower systsem and can you compare them to nvs at all?
I had a chance to compare the pro 485's against one of my 1010's this weekend. On land using the same amp (approx 100 watts RMS) with about a 20-25 mph wind, in between warehouses ( one of those large warehouse building parks) probably 25-30 yard alleyway (2 story high warehouses). The reason I say this is b/c you could tell there was a little bit of an echo b/c of the acoustics. I stood at distances of probably 65 feet to close to 80-90 possibly even 100 feet as well as about 10-12 feet (sitting down, mimicking sitting at the back of the boat).Listening to music ranging from Paul wall to pink Floyd And to be honest the differences were marginal. I almost preferred the sound out of the 485 a little better. Everything seemed to flow (for lack of a better description) a little more, not as “bright” as the 1010. (mine is an earlier model and I think Duane has done some more attenuation to the horn on the 1010) volume wise there both really loud, I would say the 1010 edged out the 485. But neither unit had full power going to it. The 485 is noticeable lighter than the 1010. One noticeable difference was the dispersion pattern of the sound. As you walked from one side of the alleyway to the other you could tell a slight difference in sound with the 1010 where as the 485 stayed pretty well constant. I also thought I’d be able to tell more of a difference in the mid to mid bass range with the 1010’s. I couldn’t hear much of a difference, nothing drastically different. From a technical standpoint, and in theory it should produce more, but like I said I couldn’t tell that large of a difference. I also thoguht the speakers (pro 485's) looked alot better in person, especially the pro 80's. Either way you can’t go wrong. Both are incredible pieces of equipment.
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|Adam- Sweet ! finally a comparison. How did the Wetsounds sound around the boat ? Are they harsh or do they sound "car audio" like ? |
|I guess I’ve gotten used to the 1010’s behind my boat. I wouldn’t use the word “harsh” for either. The “test” we did was sit the speakers on top of a truck bed cover (f-250 4x4) and sit about 10 or so feet away from them. Like I said in the previous post the 1010’s have a little brighter sound than the 485’s and even with 100 watts they both scream. The louder both units got the more prevalent the horn became. It’s been a while since I’ve sat in a boat with a really good “car audio” tower setup so it’s hard for me to say. I was in a new x2 with the stock JL tower speakers it sounds great , but no where near the volume. I like my music loud , they both accomplished that. Sitting that close to a speaker with that type of output will make yoru ears hurt, not b/c of the sound but the volume. Put either set up on your tower with a solid sub and a decently powered interior setup and you’ve got a very good “beach system”. From reading another post I believe grant has a pair at his shop. He’s probably been around a few more high powered “car audio” tower systems. |
|Incredible. To be honest, I was a little skeptical at first before the pix, but then wow!!! Congrats, super impressive and creative, I love seeing new ideas and things in crazy places. And I'm sure none of us would mind seeing some more pix... (hint hint) haha |
|I used to run 6 kenwood excelon 7x10's on my tower, and it was very loud and clean. I messed around with the Infiniti towers and then I saw the Wetsounds booth at the LA Boat Show. I heard the pro 485's and was very pleased, I ordered a pair. I have no complaints with the pro 485's. Accoustically, I think the 485's sound all around better. We listen to a huge range of music styles, hard rock to rap to eighties, and they all sound great. I'm not plugging Wetsounds, it's just my opinion, that they sound the best out of the one's I've tried and heard. I'm running 300 watts rms to each enclosure and I'm ecstatic with their performance. |
|That is sooooo sweet! I guess you are a tinter and a plumber!|
|yeah something like that.I really appreciate your post's.|
|Chris, great job, it looks great! Is there just one pump that circulates the water thru them amps? I'm assuming all the pumps can still be run w/o engine power? How do you separate your stereo batteries from your starting? How much play time can you get w/o the motor off before it's time to pack things up and go home? How big an alt. do you have? What kind of charging routine do you have. Sorry for all the questions, thanks.|
|The water cooled seems like a brilliant idea. Why don't you just put a 1000 watt honda generator on Board so while your just chillin on the water you do not have to worry about your batteries. They are extremely small and quiet. Would'nt that keep them talkin! |
|I have 1 pump that pumps the water thru the amps.My boat is stock as my c--.I get about 15 hours of play on a charge.The generator will take up to much room,room for more power @ a later date.Plus with every low freq,the system puts out, I am drowing about 412 Amps of curent.The golf kart batts are the way to go.My system is in no way tied into the boat electrical system.So I never get stuck.Thanks again everyone for all the great feedback.|
|I am not an audio genious but I think when comparing two pieces of equipment you might want to run the correct amount of wattage. Those 1010's require quite a bit more power than 100watts rms as far as I understand. It also seems logical that a small speaker would be much more efficient underpowered than a bigger speaker resulting in "better sound" coming from the smaller set. |
That said has anyone compared a 1010 to the pro 485 with a decent amount of power?
Just my .02
|I have never heard the 1010's so I have no input but with 300 watts rms running to the 485 they sound bitchin.|
|Matt, I see your point, that's why I felt it necc. to post all the conditions of the "test". And yes I normally have my 1010's with approx 500-550 RMS. But even with 100 RMS my 1010's were still very loud. Your logic makes sense and is probably right, but I would think the speakers would have to be identical (in terms of what they are made of) I know the NVS cone is paper (coated) while the wetsounds is something else (not paper) so I would assume a tad heavier?? I'd also like to hear each set with their repective power requirments.|
|This thread is unreal!! The boat is unreal, and the haters are unreal! |
Chris is obviously a guy with cash and talent! All the haters are losing in their attempts to criticize, and be sarcastic......the boat is bad, and he did it all himself.
The only thing that the haters could ask for now, is that he post a pic of himself and he looks like Larry The Cable Guy! Right now he's a double threat guy.....hope he's not a triple!
He's also been totally cool on his replies, explanations, and his overall approach with owning such a system. Put down the calculators, and the Thesaurus, stop wondering how good he rides and worrying about the poor bass fishermen! Face a true PLAYER!
Nice job Chris.....hope you wouldn't mind me asking you a few questions on my upcoming install.
|I totally agree curtis; a full on bench comparison would be pretty intensive and time consuming, not to mention expensive! Definately appreciate your input on this since I have not heard of many people comparing the "big guns" for tower speakers. |
Aside from that I am really looking forward to hearing the new tyrants and I am a little curious what the deal is with the full horn tower speakers. Has anyone heard these (the all horn version) or have any comments on the idea behind them?
I heard the XTP version of the dual horn drivers at surf expo last year. Actually, im sure most everyone who when to surf expo heard them as they were demo'ing them in front of the convention center. These suckers are LOUD and CLEAN. They were only running one set on the tower, but I could hear them clearly at easily 400 yards.
|Todd, I have not heard the XTP's but await their official release. But I've seen their price.....@ close to $2k ($1995.95) it's a little high w/ all the newcomers in the market, just my opinion. On the reasearch I've done on HLCD's I dont; understand how you'd be able to get a full range of sound out of this type of driver alone. By design, as far as I know,there made to reproduce the shorter wavelength frequecies (higher), by moving extremly fast. Anyone else know anything differernt on how they achieve a full range sound out of just a horn? |
|coming soon more pics|
|I chose to ignore this thread for a while, but, you really do have some serious shiat going on. |
|Thanks j rod |