|Here is my new V215 from start to finish, I am stoked can't wait till summer! |
|i'm jealous! Nice boat|
|Awesome Boat. I really like the Sanger emblem.|
|Very Nice Scott!|
|Wow, that is awesome. New graphics and interior? Do you anymore interior shots?|
|sick!! put not too sure on the rear platform,that thing is gonna get scratched to all heck.|
|awesome man! i love the interior, the guage bezels and black looks killer..tight boat..|
|The all black is sweeet.|
|Nice boat! I dig everything about Sangers but their decals -- sorry, its been this way for me for years.|
|And the low sides and humped decks......|
|You just can't beat a black boat! |
Nice looking Sanger!
Sangers have come a long way in the last couple of years. No more 80's boxy look!
|The 215 doesn't have the low sides or the humped motor box, but I do agree with you about the 210. Still, the wake rocks.|
|Thatr is so cool that you could get pics of the whole build! Congrats on the new ride, and it looks frickin awesome! |
|Conrats, Sweet boat. My buddy that live down the street from me has a V215 and he loves it. Great pictures. |
|Looks Good. |
|Just teasing Dane!|
|Welcome to the Sanger Owner's Club! Hope to see you at the next reunion (official or otherwise). If this is your first Sanger, you will love it. Congrats! |
P.S. There isn't really a Sanger Owner's Club... but there should be
|lovin the all black...|
I like the SS rub rail & Sanger logo - clean boat bro!
|Great boat, I happy that Sanger finally started offering a fiberglass swim platform|
|Thanks for all the input I will try and post some more pics on the upholstery. the swim platform is not finished i need to replace the non skid so it will go all the way to the lip, Hope to see all of you at Sping Ride|
|Hey Scott, is that decal another 06 option that know one knows about. Thats the first time ive seen that one. Looks sick. Sanger really needs to update there website.|
|They are working on their website. The only thing that's been updated is the color option tool. |
|sick boat welcome to the family!!|
|Steve, that graphic is a prototype for 2007,and yes they need to update that website|
|Hey scott, in that last picture is the trailer hooked up to the hitch or is Sanger just on it, in regards to balancing the load? |
Edit: nevermind, it must be on the hitch otherwise people would be pulling wheelies hopping out by going off the platform.
(Message edited by liquidmx on March 13, 2006)
|To all interested, These new things are prototype pre-production items. The black deck is very difficult to do, as it shows scratches more than a lighter color, it gets very hot and will be an upcharge if we dicide to do it. The logo on the side of the boat may be available at model year if it is well excepted, please give us your opinion. The plateform is available at this time from your local dealer. The interior is not available at this time and is under design review. Sanger boats is allways looking for ways to build more attractive models and this is how we get it done. Thanks for your imput!|
|Scott! This is the first time I have ever seen you post. Good to see you! |
BTW, I love the new logo.
|I think the new logo looks pretty good, and in my opinion you should offer solid color decks as options. Most people who order a black gelcoat top deck know what they are getting themselves into, and it looks absolutely sick. |
|Hey Scott since you offered to want some input, how about makeing the 210 deep enough to have a flat sundeck. Dont get me wrong, I love my v210 but if there was one thing I would change it would be that. If you guys could do that I would sell mine and get the new one. Until then Ill keep rockin mine.|
|Me too. Make a new taller deck for the V210, allow stainless rubrail and offer the 6.2MX. I like the new interior and decals. Very nice. Ta.|
|nice boat! it makes me excited about my new 210. should be here in a week or so! can't wait!|
|Thanks for the comments, I will look into these ideas for future production. Let me ask you all a question. Is it better in your opionion to have hard tanks for ballast or soft tanks? Soft tanks or fat sacks fit into areas better in production and are less of a problem these day. Thanks, SP|
|By NAW (ripr) on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 9:56 am:
|Although I don't own a Sanger, let me say the boat and graphic looks great. |
In regards to the soft vs. hard ballast, I'm definetly partial to the soft ballast, or use of bags..for a few reasons:
1-Interchangeability-You could upgrade the size and keep factory plumbing.
2-No need for gauges-You don't need gauges (another thing that could malfunction) to see how full they are.
3-Storage-If hard tanks are full or not, they are still taking up storage (not applicable to sub floor ballast systems).
4-Sub floor hard tanks-Could be a nightmare in the future to access and work on and/or replace.
5-Cost-perhaps with the headache gone at the factory when eliminating hard tanks, some of the cost savings could be passed on to the consumer.
I think that's all I have. Good to see a Sanger employee on here.
|Hey scott, what about a hybrid (I want the royalties for this idea, lol). Make the bottom piece a solid portion of a hard tank and the top flexible like a soft bag. That way there arent any issues with emptying and fillig those things since the bottom wouldnt move much. I thik most people's number 1 complaint is having to keep an eye on soft tanks and not just shut them off when the venting of water occurs. Usually they move and end up kinking hose etc. By having a hard bottom with maybe a 2" lip that is fused to a material like the pro x bags you could have the best of both worlds. Plus you could form the bottom piece to wrap over or around the emptying pump that is underneath/in the corner of the bag. |
|Personally, I prefer the hard tanks. Since we NEVER ride without ballast I would rather know how much storage space I have beforehand, rather than having to rearrange things once the sacs are full. Also, it seems to me that having a fat sac in the same area as storage leaves opportunity for something to poke a hole in it. |
I'm sure Tate will have a different opinion.
|I agree with Renee. Hard tanks are the way to go. I have a family of four, storage is a big deal. With the hard tanks, I can fill them, and dont have to worry about things sitting on top of sacks, poking a hole. etc |
|Hi Scott, Personally I think bags are a bit mickey mouse and a step backwards. What I would really like to see would be flat tanks in the rear which create a false floor for the rear locker and extend slightly into the seating area bringing the weight forward a bit more. A tank in the front underfloor and an option for a bow rider tank like the VLX has.|
|Hard Tanks all the way|
|Hey Scott. I agree with Renee. I like hard tanks a lot. We never ride with them empty. |
Henderson: Your a pimp for going all black. When we gonna take that thing out and slam it.
|God do I miss my Sanger... |
SCOTT please bring your dealers out to Florida!!!!
How is Adam doing @ mission marine in Paso Robles?
About the tanks... Soft is good for so many reasons. You can upgrade, yeah they might leak etc, but like the VLX tank in the center ballast, if a plastic seam breaks...how do you fix it? the access door is tiny. So many companies are trying to be so different...go with what works, I dont need carpeted ballast tanks with sensor's and lights and bling...you know what works....WEIGHT.....
did I say I missed my Beautiful Blue Sanger v-210,my wooden boat that rots...lol
|We don't have gauges(Bling) on our hard tanks. When they pump water out the side they are full. That is what I like about Sanger. They make a quality boat first! Bling comes second. BTW for me, hard tanks all the way. Same reasons as my wife (Renee).|
|Even, Got to keep the pimp hand strong. Hit me up I'm down whenever|
|The biggest downfall of Supra (IMO) is no hard tanks. It would suck looking for a place to put an anchor when you have all bags.|
|Soft tanks only if you could keep them under the floor(or hard tanks designed correctly), easy to get to (like the false floor idea), or even under the floor from the rear of the boat to about the cooler area, have an access panel for easy maintance when required, use the framing idea so they don't move around on you, still use the over flow so no need for extra guages. From the back of the boat have the sacks run deeper and as you appraoch the front taper off. |
A rough idea because I don't have access to my personal computer I can't upload pics but think of how a sub uses ballast to sink, and boat could do the same if you put a little thought into it. Look at how much space is not used under the floor of our boats.
Heres a radical idea, think wedge now think hydrofoil, put it somewhere between the gorilla fins and the prop, make it hydrolic so that it pops out of the bottom when you want the huge wake (and retracts completely when not needed) of the hull to pull the boat deeper into the water. it wouldnt need to be all that big, run that deep, could be adjustable for the ridder, just need to creat a reinforment design for the hull.
|Kenny, you just made our boats cost $5,000 more to make.|
|By NAW (ripr) on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 6:42 am:
|One thing to remember about soft tanks these days (like what Supra/Moomba use), is they are not the same material of the old fat sacs. They are very thick. I've filled them up with boards/fins on top of them and never had a problem. Also, when they're full, they spit out, just like hard tanks. |
Craig-trust me, there's so many places to put an anchor in a 21V you'll forget where it is! lol
|oh yea... that is one sweet boat. |
I'm going crazy waiting it get out on the water. Crazy I tell you!
p.s. Craig, what's up man. Rick here, black w/ yellow flames V215, we hooked up for a few at Pedro last season.
(Message edited by wakestyle on March 16, 2006)
|Rick whats up, hope life has been good. Well have to get together sometime this summer at Pedro. |
Naw..hope I didnt offend you, I think Supra is a great boat, It was between that and Sanger....Just think they should do hard tanks.
|sorry renee but I have the spare time right now with nothing to do up here but dream, ya it would be a little more at first but the price should equlize a little with not having the hard tanks and doing in on all the sanger boats. |
its not like they would actually use any of my crazy ideas
|I still say the future of wake boats won't include ballast tanks. I'm sure that it'll be some type of water diverting device that takes over. It's so much more practical and safer allowing the boat to sit high when idle and pull down into the water on plane. Just wait. |
|BTW, I know Malibu already does this and the wedge is effective, but cobby. I think someone can do a better job and keep it out of the way of the running gear.|
|Scott P; |
You know my stand point on the Hard tanks, They take up to much room currently in the design Sanger has. My sac's hold 150lb more per side and once I finish installing the hard top cover (Similar to Supra's) I will not have any issues of poping a sac. I would like hard tanks but they need to be designed diffrently.
Good choice on the color, I am glad you finally decided, She looks sweet and I like the interior, So did you go with the hard tanks?? I was hoping to do some plumbing to curl that surf wake for ya...
|Thanks Gary, I did go with the hard tanks, See if your guy can build me some larger one's and give me a call at the store. |