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By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 10:56 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Ok im gonna get stared on some winter projects.
Ive got some goodies in the works. Here is some shots of the latest project. Carbon Fiber grab handles. These handles will have LED lights on the back or under side of the handle where your fingers will wrap around. This is a router template. Im gonna have to get the thicknes correct and then add some shape to the handle. I want them to look close to stock

By Scott Taylor (taylormade) on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 2:05 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Sweet! Too bad my boat doesn't have a single handle like that in it.
By freeboozeforall (madchild1) on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 3:49 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
those are moomba handles if i'm not mistaken.
By eric fox (fox) on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 5:49 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Close...Nautique. Grant has a SAN.
By Matt K. (flyspec14) on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 7:55 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
what's the next step? Wrap with CF?
By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 8:05 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Im gonna get the thickness of the handle correct and then Im gonna put some shape in the handle and then ill insert the channel for the LED's
By freeboozeforall (madchild1) on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 10:05 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Close...Nautique. Grant has a SAN.

nautiques doesn't even use stainless handles?!!? wow, i thought they would splurge on something like that considering the price.

By eric fox (fox) on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 11:11 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
They didn't at the time. Not sure if they still do...I hadn't paid attention to those details in the recent pictures.
By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 1:01 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
"Madchild: I dont think stainless grab handels would match as well as the current handle's. I dont think it's a matter of CC skimping. The handles in the front of the boat are stainless The reason is the tower rests on them so they need to be real stong.
By Mikeski (mikeski) on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 6:23 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
It's a Nautique but not a SAN.

Not sure what is meant by close to Moomba, I don't think it's close?

stir, stir...

By eric fox (fox) on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 6:40 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Sorry was sarcasm lost on madchild. If anyone has seen Grant's work, you surely would have seen the "Bling-Bling". I think it's a SAN (sweet A$$ Nautique!!!!)


By Mikeski (mikeski) on Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 9:59 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
No need to apologize (at least not to me), just trying to see if anybody was awake. Maybe get a rise out of a Moomba owner? yes I agree with your interpretation of san as applied to Grant's boat. Still looking forward to seeing/touching it but has not happened yet this summer. Hopefully Grant can make it up to McClure on 10/15.
By Jeff R (jroyal) on Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 11:19 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Mikeski, HEARING it is what I would want.
By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 5:37 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Got a chance to get back to the handles

By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 6:04 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
So Im just starting to shape the handles. I got kind of caryed away with the curves, LOL But they feel so good in your hand, This handle makes the stock handle look straight. I want the handle to have abit more shape, It also needs to be a tad wider then the stock one so that when I router the space where the LED's are going to fit the handle will still have some strength.

When Im finished with the shape this will be my mold for the other 3 handles.

By paul (wakeme884) on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 7:09 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Grant, by the time you finish all the electrical projects youre doing and have done, you'll need a nuclear powerplant to run your boat.On a clear summer evening when I see a glow in the sky toward the north, I;ll know its your boat cruising...
By Blair (twitch) on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 4:19 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
think of the wake with nuke generator on board
By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 4:56 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post

By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 4:59 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Ill connect all 3 surface mount LED clusters together and router a channel wher the wires can run into and that should do it for my mold. Then I will make the mold and cast 3 handles and then start to get them wraped in Carbon Fiber
By Luciano Grimblat (luchog) on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 5:34 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
man your a god
By matt Winans (liquidmx) on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 6:16 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hey grant, with all that electronics, does your boat have that electrical generator sound to it (whoom, whoom, whoom)
By GD (greatdane) on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 7:57 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Grant, thats a pretty cool handle. I would think you could sell them. Or, perhaps CC could offer them as an upgrade.
By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 4:40 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
GD, Im making a mold so I can pop some out. For some reason when I make suff nobody's intrested so I make just enough for myself. But as soon as its finished a few people need some. So ill be ready if some one needs some. As far as CC needing some, 6 months ago I would have said never. But after seeing the New 220 and reading there discription of that boat (They said in its write up "it has all the Bling") LOL I would say mabey. But as far as them getting them from me. No way they will make there own.
P.S wanna see what $120 worth of RTV (The blue mold) looks like .

By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 9:15 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I was able to pour a few handles last night. They came out great. I only wish they had casting resin in black. I tryed adding black to the resin but it only made a mess and turned the handle grey The white pigmant casting material is very strong

By Luke (lukeduke95) on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 10:08 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Those are definitley sick!!!

Brilliant idea.

By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 10:25 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I have a question. Orignally I was thinking of making it so that you could drop or out what ever color LED cluster you wanted Making the cluster removable, if a LED cluster failed you could drop in a new one or change color. But now im thinking of molding the LED cluster into the handle. If The cluster was resin'd into the handle it would be smoother on the back side ect.
I was just wondering what your thoughts were. Is it important to make the handles so that the LED clusters can be changed out???

By Psyclone (cyclonecj) on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 11:50 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
One thing you might wanna do is backfill the LED clusters with epoxy so that they don't pop back through into the little housing when you grab the handle hard. If you are using the high dollar LED clusters they may be built that way to start with. The LEDS won't fail if they don't move around and break a connection, no need to change them out. Looks very cool so far.
By Ben (w8less1) on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 12:27 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hey Grant are those LED waterproff?
By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 1:53 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post

By Luciano Grimblat (luchog) on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 3:16 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I think it is important that if a led fails or goes out you can change it easily
By Doug Gierosky (d_fresh) on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 5:48 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
As long as the LEDs are current limited properly, they will not go bad. Just check them prior to molding the handle.
By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 8:24 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
These are the type of LED's that im gonna use.

By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 8:25 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post

By Ben (w8less1) on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 8:29 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
So! Are they Waterproof? Would you like to answer that question?
By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 8:58 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
By Walt (walt) on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 9:00 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Grant, You continue to amaze me with the stuff you come up with.
By GD (greatdane) on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 8:44 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Grant, I think molded in LEDs would be somewhat better. Once you pick a color, I suspect you would rarely change the color. The only negative is you can't easily stock pile handles and LEDs to make any color.
By jan w (jwag) on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 11:37 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I assume you are able to reuse the blue mold? And more details, lol. What materials? brands? how long? Can you make a video? Sorry, this is a first for me, never seen anybody do this at home.

Very kewl Grant

By Luke (lukeduke95) on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 6:20 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hey G,

I bought a ton of leds online. One thing I have noticed is that not all of them are perfect. I think it would be better to be able to remove them and change them out.

By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 7:41 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Yea with the clusetrs you can test them befor you istall them. Im guessing if they are ok when you install them that they will last.
By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 7:45 am:    Edit Post Delete Post

Anyone have a good source on the LED cluster's

By John Nelson (wissota) on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 7:53 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hey Grant: Anytime you can minimize the seams, cracks, grooves, etc. You will make cleaning easier. Spiders like to nest in tight places as well as those little wormy things that pack mud in crevases. Maybe you don't have those around you ; but here in the midwest we have all sorts of creepy crawley things that get into everywhere.
By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 9:12 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Yea thats a good point about the crud in the crack's. Im gonna epoxy the lights in the back side of the handles. The handles will be stronger and smoother with the gap's filled. It sounds like the LED clusters are pretty reliable and I wont have a problem with them needing to be changed out. And its not like Im gonna mass produce them.
By actiondcpd (actiondcpd) on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 11:23 am:    Edit Post Delete Post

I got my clusters at:

THe ones you posted look the same so I'm assuming you are looking for a better vender. But if not they worked out well for me.

I would fill the gaps. Will be cleaner and feel better like you said.

By GD (greatdane) on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 11:38 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I have been looking for some surface mount LEDs to put along my deck overlooking my dock. These looks interesting. I think I will have to buy a few and see if they would work.


By chris williams (audiopro74) on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 11:38 am:    Edit Post Delete Post

Just out of curiosity, why not make the handles a little less angular on the inside edge, then groove them and use strip l.e.d. Then clear epoxy the rest of the groove to make them smooth. I realize you a long way into this project and now is not the time to change. Was just curious if you thought about going that route, and if so why not.

By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 12:46 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Chris: I was thinking about the LED strip's but after seing how much light they throw out I wanted somthing super "BLING" bright LOL but yes a single LED strip with 4 led's Im sure would work. But that's not how we roll,
I also wanted to copy the stock desighn but make it with just a bit more shape. When the lights are momunted and I add the rest of the epoxy to the hole's it will be pretty smooth under there.
I just orderd some lights today so when they get here Ill light it up and post a pic. Im sure they will be pretty bright.

Charles: Thanks for the hook up with the LED's.

By TeamNeptunes (chas) on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 1:09 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post

Any time. Its a shame that Niel is hitting people with such high prices.

By Shawn (superair) on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 1:45 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post

I have some surface mounted led's on a sort of tape. They would be easy to mount on the back side witha small dado cut. They are super bright. I got mine to do the lighted speaker rings. they are kinda spendy but they are super small.

I couldn't agree more with you on the prices.

By Itch (fullonsalesgrp) on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 4:34 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Grant you are a multitude of mechanisms.......
I wish we lived closer so you could do my work, alas I will have to pick you r brain when I get ready to bling my ride. First we have to get racks and a heater you know the essentials first.

By Neil Fett (bigasswake) on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 4:53 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
O.K. Neil Is Now back to a sole propritership, what this means is I am now in charge of pricing, as well as everything else. So from here on out pricing goes back to the way it should be, Cheap, with the best products on the market.

Neil Fett

By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 5:14 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Just got finished with the first wrap of carbon fiber. Im gonna do a 2nd wrap and then sink the LED's in

By Itch (fullonsalesgrp) on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 6:06 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Damn nice grant, now get those lights in.

By Luke (lukeduke95) on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 6:07 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
G! What does the mounting feet look like? Show me the back side!!! Please Please!
By matt (supraman) on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 7:49 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post

I don't know exactly what I would do with this, but I thought I'd put it on your radar screen in case is sparks something:

Light Tape

By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 8:15 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
The back side has stud's comming threw the handles with a nut pressed between the handle and the stud head. You cant see where the stud goes into the handle because after I drilled the hole I put the stud in and filled the hole.

The lay up went real nice the weave is nice and straight and I got the carbon fiber to wrap all the way around to the back side.

(Message edited by grant_west on November 15, 2005)

By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 8:17 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post

By chris williams (audiopro74) on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 8:26 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Those look so sick. Mad props
By Mikeski (mikeski) on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 10:10 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Awesome as usual...
By GD (greatdane) on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 10:25 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 7:57 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I wanted to see how bright the cluster's are so I just set them in the handle to take a look.
All the led's seem to point at the same spot when the handle is close to the mounting surface. It does make a differace with 3 clusters compaired to 1 cluster

By Robert Welther (roberto) on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 10:04 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
We're not worthy!

By Matt Ostmeyer (matt_ostmeyer) on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 11:06 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Dude keep the sweet schite coming - I really enjoy watching the progress on your projects! So fresh n so fresh n clean. Thanks for the posts!
By Jon (jon4pres) on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 1:33 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Grant you have the most amazing custom boat.

Not that I could afford it but

How much would it take for me to buy the bling machine?

By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 4:19 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
"How much would it take for me to buy the bling machine"

ONE Milllllieion Dollars


By Neil Fett (bigasswake) on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 2:44 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Grant what would it take for you guys to come down to TX and do an insane setup in a Donzi ZX. The boats worth about 335,000 and he wants the best stereo and installers

But if your intrested work me up a quote and will get rolling on it.


By TeamNeptunes (chas) on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 10:19 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Be careful Grant, you might get stuck in Texas.


Unless your ready to fly some one out there and back there is no way to quote some thing like that with out going through the boat and talking with the owner.

By Neil Fett (bigasswake) on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 2:45 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Already done.

I told Mark the owner of the boat that these guys are the topdogs. Then I showed him some of there work and he was extremely impressed.

By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 11:51 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I just cleard the handles Im waiting for them to dry and then Ill get them installed

By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 7:13 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Ok Im finished with the handles they came out great, super happy with them.

By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 7:14 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post

By Jon (jon4pres) on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 7:35 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
very cool final prduct. That Carbon fiber looks great.
By Itch (fullonsalesgrp) on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 8:40 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Night pictures my boy it's all bout the ladies and the night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 9:27 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
The night shots didnt turn out very well

By Mikeski (mikeski) on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 10:04 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I can't really tell how they look from the pictures, I will need another day out on the BLING machine to check them out!!!

Looking good.


By Itch (fullonsalesgrp) on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 10:26 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
freakin brillant grant just plain freakin brillant.. a picture from say behind the boat showing the interior would be just sick.

By Big Ed (big_ed_x2) on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 8:55 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
DUDE...That's just plain UGLY!!!


I know you don't need me to say it's clean to be DOPE!!
To bad my X-2 doesn't have any handles..

By Scott Cutler (scotty_doo) on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 5:28 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Nice work Grant, i do carbon fiber work, it looks like you've got the process down pretty good.
By Wake Specialty (wakespecialty) on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 9:07 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I know how difficult it is to photo led's! I can also imagine what they look like in person. Very nice work - the high gloss finish on the handles is stellar.
By Sound_Illusions (grant_west) on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 9:14 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hey Scott: Thanks what exactley do you do with Carbon Fiber
By David W. Hickey (hickdawg79) on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 7:54 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Grant-- That was such an awesome job. Beginning to end nice walk-thru!
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