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By EUSTACE (eustace) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 11:51 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Can anyone give me some information on Pop up cleats, with regards to installation and quality; it looks like the most common choices are the Slim Line® by Accor or the Neat Cleat by Attwood.

Thanks, E

 
By Chris Neelley (hatepwcs) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 11:54 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I would recommend pull ups. safer IMO
 
By Grant Stewart (elmog) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 12:15 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Just curious, how are the pull-ups safer? I actually had the Accon Pop-Ups on my prev. MC and now I have the Factory MC pull-ups (which appear to be OEM from Accon) and both are very high quality. I thought the pop-ups were a bit more 'James Bond' but I didn't notice any safety concerns with them?
 
By Scott (oshensurfer) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 12:37 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Pretty sure he's saying that pop up are safer. You can't get caught on them, stub a toe, get a finger caught... as easily
 
By Chris Neelley (hatepwcs) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 12:49 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I have the pop ups on my Sanger but actually ordered pull ups. Going over the wake when driving a double up or rough water can sometimes cause the cleats to pop up by themselves.
 
By Pat Frist (qwert1420) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 2:05 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
What size would you recommend? I think the sizes are 4 1/2", 6", or 8".
 
By Grant Stewart (elmog) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 2:38 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
On a 20' boat my preference is the 4.5 As the boat gets bigger, scale-up. 8" would be way to large on any wakeboat IMO.
 
By EUSTACE (eustace) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 2:46 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Ops! Yeah, I meant to say Pull-Ups. It looks like the Attwood uses 7/8” studs while the Accon uses (guessing) ¼” studs with a backing plate. Is there any preference for installation?
 
By Mitch Mansfield (mitchm) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 8:02 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I installed a stock 4.5" pop up on my MC, and it was terrifying. Drilled 4 holes, and connected the middle 2 w/ a jigsaw. It came out great, but I'm not sure I'd do it again
 
By Mike J (deltajake) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 1:49 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I have pop ups and have never had one pop up unwanted. They do have some adjustment to them which makes them sensitive if you do not fix it. I purchased mine from a Supra dealer as they were the cheapest. Maybe because Supra's come standard with pop-ups and he had over stock. Almost half of what others wanted. I agree it was scary cutting the hole for them but the finish product is great looking. My friend has a Sanger and complains that the pull ups clank some times in rough water.
 
By Eric Lentz (elentz5) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 9:03 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
OK, I must be stoooopid or something. What is the diff between pull-ups and pop-ups?
 
By Robert (ag4ever) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 9:18 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I have pop ups on my '02 SANTE, and they have never poped by themselves.

My neibor has pullups, and while they are nice, and do the same thing while they are down, they tend to want to retract while putting a rope on them. My pop ups just stay firm in the up position while fiddling with ropes et al.

The pop ups have a button to press causing them to "pop" into the up position the pull ups, are totally manual.

 
By Scott Ashcraft (skimoomba) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 6:06 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I am about to install my Attwood Neat Cleats, but am a little frightened about drilling into my Moomba. Are there any special "DO's" or "DON'Ts" when drilling into a boat. Does the drill bit tend to "break thru" and crack the fiberglass on the back side?
 
By Grant Stewart (elmog) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 9:11 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I have installed many items which required drilling the gelcoat and I use a dremel with a small router bit. I put masking tape over the entire area to be drilled and then draw the template on the masking tape. I then just start in the center and go all the way through and I keep 'rounding-out' the whole till it meets my template lines.
 
By Gary (goth2o) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 9:03 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
when drilling ANY holes drill with even pressure in REVERSE that way the hole saw wont"bite" and kill your gel. Once you are thru the gel then switch to forward. then bevel the hole with some fine sandpaper and viola you are done.

if you dont believe the reverse thing try it out on a card board box! Forward shreds it reverse, smooth.

 
By cdm (cdm) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:03 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
great pointer!! see this site is good for something.. Right on Gary
 
By Mitch Mansfield (mitchm) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 6:39 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
If those are like the MC pop ups (accon?) you have the connect the 2 larger diameter holes in the middle with a jig saw. Use plenty of masking tape, and you s/b set. good luck
 
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