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By Erik Asp (ssippiriverrat) on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:33 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I am sure that some one has already asked and answered this but doesn't anyone know where some of the trick names came from and who named them?

Some are self-explanitory (backroll, 360, etc) but who came up with tantrum, raley, pete rose, mobius, etc?

By David D (wakeguru) on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 11:01 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Air Raley is named after the guy who invented it and Byerly gets credit for the Pete Rose.
Not sure about the other 2. Wakeboard trivia anyone?

By Sean (canaday) on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 11:26 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I think it's Chet Raley. A mobius is a shape where there is a circle and twist in it, so it only has one side and one edge.

http://www.mps.k12.nf.ca/mathematics/Grassroots/Mobius%20Strip/mobius3.htm will give you a little info on it. No idea on a tantrum.

(Message edited by canaday on July 29, 2003)

(Message edited by canaday on July 29, 2003)

By Jared Schassen (goose69) on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 11:33 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Mostly the tricks where named by the person who landed them first. I think Gator was the first to do the Hoochie Glide and he named it that.
By Dan (shaggydan22) on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 11:57 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I think Pete Rose(the person) always slide head first to a base, and when most people fall trying a pete rose they catch there nose and do a head first slide/plant. At least thats what i heard.
By kristian coltman (kristian) on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:26 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Dan has it right on the pete rose.
The Hoochie Glide was named by Gator, and thats self explanitory.
Now the funny thing is, A mobius (or mobius strip) in mathimatical terms, has only a half twist in it, so whoever named the trick, didn't pay much attention in math class.
Basically, the first person to land the trick, gets to name it whatever they want, hence some of the stupid names. Like the switch front to blind, is the hasselhoff, thanks to Horrell.

By Matt (mvda) on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 2:13 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
tootsie roll and dum dum - shane
temper tantrum & 911 - parks
fat chance - byerly
slim chance - lavelle?
orbital and speedball - shapiro
bel air, tweetiebird, & eggroll - murray
s-bend - shannon best
mobius - kovak?
fruit loop - weddington

By lloyd murray (lmtwa) on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 2:22 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I think that it's the first person to land a trick in a competition - that used to be the way it was.
And yes, Chet raley (one of the best wakeboard coaches ever) is the one that trick is named after.
And btw - wait til you see Parks recovery on the slider on Sunday at Irvine (2nd pass) - unbelieveable.

By Erik Asp (ssippiriverrat) on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 3:27 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Thanks for the info, guys,--However, someone told me awhile ago that murray named it the pete rose because you were supposed to bet that you couldn't do it--or something like that--with Pete Rose's gambling addiction and all...

anyone know about the tantrum...I don't think it is a guys name

(Message edited by Ssippiriverrat on July 29, 2003)

By Michael Renda (ghettolake415) on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 4:53 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
naw i'm pretty sure a pete rose is b/c of the way u fall.
By Tom Schultz (hick) on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 5:34 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Pete Rose was named by Byerly. There was a write up about it way back in the day of WBM.
By David D (wakeguru) on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 8:53 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
That's what I remember too Tom - the pic sequence of Byerly doing the Pete in WBM "back in tha day".....
Yeah Lloyd, I heard that Parks pulled a crazy save off of the slider on Sunday in Irvine. Have not seen the video circulate yet online anywhere though....? DW said the guy filming for Fox got it all, but who knows when that will air and plus, I never seem to catch those shows! Maybe it's time for Tivo.

By Alex Holden (nautiair) on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:34 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
the raley is named after Chet Raley.... he gave Darin the idea to try it behind a boat.... before Darin did it behind a boat it was a cable trick.
By Kirk Rieber (kdr) on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:49 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
The tantrum was named by Eric Perez.
By Greg Hodgin (eccpaint) on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 1:05 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
There is new trick, tantrum w/ 360 on the way down. So far it has been called the "Hamrick Manuever" by his friends. Alex Hamrick nailed this trick about 2 weeks ago, Haven't heard if that is what it will be called for sure.
By Alex Holden (nautiair) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 7:35 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
erik ruck did that trick off the double up at the first tour stop this year...... tantrum and then as he was falling he pulled it to a blind 3.... it was sick!
By Craig Fulton (oldschool) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 7:49 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Slim Chance - Eisenhower
By Matt (mvda) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 8:00 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Craig, I'm pretty sure the Slim Chance was being thrown long before Eisenhower came on to the scene. I remember seeing Lavelle throw them back in 98.
By Kyle (lfxstar) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 9:37 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
matt, i think gregg is saying that he is doing a tantrum with a frontside three, not a backside 3
By Jakeman (jakeman) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:45 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
my boy Adam Delvecio invented the "other hand hoochie" also known as the "Atom Bomb" back in '94

you can see one of his videos on


video is called "off the water" featuring Atomic Atom


By Matt (mvda) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:47 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Kyle, I think that too. You should be addressing Alex.
By David D (wakeguru) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 12:05 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
That friggin move Ruck pulled in Orlando was so big it's not even funny.
By Greg Hebard (wakeninja) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 12:34 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
a tantrum w/ a frontside 360 is a KGB its been around for more than 2 years
By Erik Asp (ssippiriverrat) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 12:48 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Has anyone heard of the gorilla?

It is a fashion air to indy grab--that is what we call it up in minnesota--is it known by any other name other places?--or is it just a regional thing?

Oh, also what is the vulcan all about--was someone a star trek fan or what?

By Jason Onori (jonori) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 1:02 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Greg, a tantrum w/ a frontside 3 has no special name, and I have yet to seen one in any video I have ever watched. A KGB is a hs backroll with a bs 3.
By Alex Holden (nautiair) on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 7:12 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I thought a slim chance is a front flip with something..maybe a blind 3... don't think that a tantrum is the root of a slim chance........ I also thought that a tantrum with a bs 3 was called a Moby dick..... but that is when it is all thrown at the same time.... ruck did the tantrum and after he had finished the rotation he pulled it to a blind 3.

a vulcan is a s-bend and you rewind the last 180 and land switch.... I'm pretty sure that it finishes kind of like a elephant...... I know Darin does a switch vulcan..... it's crazy.

By Corey Marotta (corey_marotta) on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:41 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hasselhoff-Thomas Horrell

Switch Front with a back side 180

By Salmon Tacos (salmon_tacos) on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 12:17 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Someone asked where Tantrum came from. I really don't know but I think it's because when you throw your head back, you look like you're a little kid throwing a tantrum.


By Thane Dogg (thane_dogg) on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 4:09 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Salmon - I've heard that too. A slim chance is a hs front flip with a fs 3, also called a front mobe.

Jason - I've never seen one either but I sure would like to.

By christopher stack (deepstructure) on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 5:49 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
damn! and i thought i was being original. i was thinking since i just learned a hs fs 3 and i already know a how to do a tantrum that a lofty far-off goal would be a tantrum with a late fs 3 - the opposite of ruck's progressive moby dick (to use dave's terminology). oh well, someone's already doing it eh?

btw, i started a thread about names of flips with spins that no one's helping me with - fill in the blanks for me! here:


By Greg Hodgin (eccpaint) on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 8:43 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Matt & Kyle you both are correct. Alex Hamrick threw a tantrum with a late fs 3.
By Sean Cawby (reddog25cf) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 9:58 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I've got a buddy who thinks up tricks and then Michael Vincz (Junior Pro rider who we're friends with) goes out and does them. A couple that come to mind are the gargoyle (2 handed grab at the indy position, handle still in hand) and the corn dog (another two handed grab, front hand at indy and back hand in middle of the heel edge, again handle still in front hand). It's pretty funny watching Michael go out and do em. He's also named a few other little "tricks" like when you fall on your back and your legs fly up in front of ya, he calls it the slut, a boardslide across both wakes he called the boardwalk. Definitely makes it fun when he's yellin at people to do things he would never even try.

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