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By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 9:02 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Well kinda...I used a drill and grinder/sander too.

I finally finished my project and decided to post it for comments and to see what people think... Please be nice as this has taken me a few months worth of putz'in around with it on the weekends and evenings. Prob over 80 hrs into it if I had to guess.

So, I wanted to see if I could make a board. Having no prior engineering education I figured this would be a good challenge. I made it out of balsa wood and fiberglass. My initial objective was to make an ultra light board. That object quickly changed to 'I better make this thing strong' - and lightness went out the window. I've never worked with fiberglass before in my life, so I had no prior experience going into this. Lots of learning along the way.

I started by ordering some balsa wood online. Based on my design concept, I had figured out how much I was going to need and as it turns out, I have only a few scrap pieces left, so my calculations were spot on.

The wood showed up and I began fiddle with it trying to figure out how to shape and cut it. I sat at my kitchen table w/ a pocket knife and made all the initial cuts. Then I super glued the internal stringers to get the desired rocker. Once I had the skeleton I cut the top and bottom boards to fit. Then I taped it all together to see what the overall size and shape was going to be. I was pleasantly surprised to see that it looked like a wakeboard...kinda. So I moved forward with the project and started fiber glassing.

Fiber glassing is a chore!! A sticky messy, difficult substance to work with. At any rate I put a layer of fiberglass on all surfaces of every piece of wood. (this is where I lost the light weight battle) This was a tedious process as it took some time for everything to dry ect. I then had to trim the excess glass off every piece. Again...not the most fun thing in life. fiberglass particles are itchy and seem to get everywhere. At this stage it was in august heat here in Phoenix, sweating balls hating it. 100+ F wearing long sleeves and a respirator. Not fun.

Once all that was done I had a pile of fiber glassed wood...didnít look like a wakeboard at all. :-( To piece it together I started with the top and bottom sheets. Each was broken down into 3 sections. 2 ends and a middle. I fiber glassed each section again to get them to stay together. Then I fiber glassed the 3 sections together to form the top. Repeated for the bottom at a later stage.

Once I had the top formed, I glued the stringers to it and fiber glassed a few of them in place. So at this stage I had 2/3s of the board built. Next was to try to figure out how to get the binding holes in place and what to make them out of. I solved that, and moved onto gluing the bottom to the top and sealing the whole thing up. I fiber glassed the rails again and sealed the tips. I spent several hours sanding and smoothing both sides so that you can run you hand down any part w/o getting snagged. i checked for wood exposure and filled any pinholes w/ resin again.

I let it all cure and painted it flat black w/ its nickname on the back. 'The log' as it's a hunk of wood and is slightly heavier than my ronix.


This is the short and condensed version in comparison to the amount of work that went into this thing. I didnt keep track of the cost of this thing, but I was constantly going back to the store for more supplies. (btw everthing except the wood can be bought @ home depot or ACE) I would guess it cost about the same as a new board off the shelf, but the satisfaction of riding something you built = priceless.

I have not tested it out yet and still need to get some fins (if anyone has any they can donate let me know!!)

I think it'll hold strong, but all my buddies think its going to break right away...place your bets!

More photo's of the build process can be seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23101823@N06/sets/72157608553807173/

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By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 9:03 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
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By Darren (snowman89) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 9:07 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
The shape of that looks very similar to my ronix mana. Makes me wonder....
 
By Eubanks (eubanks01) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 9:17 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
That is some agressive 3-stage board! Very cool and thanks for sharing. You'll have to let us know how it rides.
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 9:40 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Thanks! I'm going to try to get it out in the water next weekend. I went w/ a 3 stage because I liked the pop of the ronix1, but wanted a little more rocker...kinda ibex-ish. We'll see if holds together. :-) Its pretty freakin sturdy, but I have no idea what a takeoff/landing will do to it.
 
By Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 10:07 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
i bet that thing will have some crazy buck both on take offs and landings.

good job, i know i could never do that... however, I have thought about mixing the ol' card-board-boat-race tradition with wakeboarding though, and seeing how good a board i can make out of card board (and maybe duck-tape too)

 
By Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 10:08 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
it might make a better wakeskate in the end due to the abrupt rocker style?
 
By Big Heavy (stephan) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 11:51 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Wear a cup and some pants, you never know where splinters will try and lodge themselves. Nothing personal, but I see that thing exploding into a million pieces. I hope I'm wrong!
 
By Troy (liveoz) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 12:13 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Good job, I am however, betting that it will break at the rocker line joints fairly quickly.

let us know how it holds up.

 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 12:39 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
"Wear a cup and some pants"

Noted. lol

"it will break at the rocker line joints"

This is the weakest link in the design, but I glassed them fairly thick to compensate for it. It's tough to capture the fiber glassing w/ a camera. The heels of my bindings are on the flat part so I'm hoping thats where most of the impact will be.

We'll see.

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Boots are set here close to where the holes are (not screwed in)

 
By Kristian "English" Coltman (kristian) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 12:48 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
you must film the maiden voyage
 
By Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 12:52 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
^^^ second that^^^ and post it here too
 
By Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 1:13 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
i think this pic shows the reinforcement on the joints talked about?

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By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 1:24 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Exactly. Thanks. The glass is about 1/4 inch thick or so in that area, maybe a little less, sanded flush. Plus the top and bottom are glassed on each side and each internal stringer is also heavily re-enforced at the rocker line. I gave this area a lot of attention due to the stress it will take. Hope it's up for the beating it's about to receive.

You can also see all the sanding and where I circle 'would be' leaks that I went over w/ resin again. It's now water proof...I hope.

 
By Kyle Marriott (kyle_m) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 1:26 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
you might want to tune the edges also???
just to give it a lil better edge
they look thick and flat

 
By Diggs (pdxWAKE.com) (tyler97217) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 1:27 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Cool..... good luck... fun story to follow...
 
By jr (romes) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 1:31 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
have you stood on it on dry land yet to see how much it gives?

i would be hoppin all over that thing before i took it out on the water.

 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 1:42 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
The rails are thick and flat. haha. I decided to leave them like that in favor of structural support. If I end up making another one I'll play with the shape more.

I stood on it like this before it was glued together..thats the only time I've tested it. It flexed a little, but not much. Now that its all glued together I bet it wont flex at all.

I dont want break it on some arbitrary strength test. I'll take my chances. lol

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By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 1:44 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
btw.. I'm about 190lbs.
 
By David B. (dabell) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 1:56 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hope you have some good health insurance.

Good luck

 
By Eubanks (eubanks01) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 2:23 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Dude, that would have been bad news it if broke when you are standing on a 3 foot tall table!! haha
 
By Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 3:50 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
^^^on one leg too^^^
 
By derek (to_blind) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 4:53 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
next time you have a piece of balsa in your hand you should consider making a rocker jig to clamp it down to. do this with steam and some 2x6 material cut into the shape of your rocker. i'll try to send you some pics of the concave wakeskates I use to make..pretty simple design process and a great end product that i still use today. if you don't want to go with balsa, try laminating some baltic birch together, fairly lightweight and strong...anyways, cool to see someone givin' it a go
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 5:29 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Ya the one leg test could have ended up bad and the whole project would have stopped...good thing it passed!!

Derek, I'm assuming you're talking about making the rocker transition a little more subtle and not so harsh. Warp some balsa to make it a smoother transition. correct?

 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 6:03 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
It floats! but it leaks. Dang.

Does anyone know a trick to make it leak proof other than schmearing more resin/glue on it. They are isolated leaks, but definitely problematic.

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By Jason Morganti (110outlet) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 6:16 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Im impressed, id like to see video as well of your first time out.
 
By Keith (tversetti) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 7:40 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I think you are going to kill yourself!!!

no offense, truly original idea

 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 7:49 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Well after a trip to the store for some more (and hopefully the last) resin, I have put another coating around the rails. I also re-did the fiberglass on one end, (it was the first one I did before i honed my skillz) so thats why that looks all messed up. A coat of paint and no one will ever know. :-)

Tomorrow it will be float tested again for leaks.
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By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 7:56 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hope not Keith, and thanks (I think).

Its the off season, so if something catastrophic happens I'll have a few months to recover.

 
By p c (pc332) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 8:16 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Thats pretty cool Scott, hope it works! I'm also looking forward to seeing the video of this!
 
By Tony Miorana (tentcitygoon) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 9:16 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
That is cool, always good to try and do something new. If you can bust a sick slaysh on it, then it will be all worth it.
 
By Jim Aikins (ccryder) on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 10:02 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Can you drill some small holes in the areas between the ribs and put some spray foam in to fill the voids? Can't wait to hear how it rides.
 
By Mike O'Boyle (2007_x2) on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 12:10 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
looks good bro! good luck i think ull get a few sets on it!
 
By drew mcmillen (xmcmillenx) on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 6:25 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
that photo of him standing on the chairs reminds me of an old wakeboard video where they do that and i think Bruce Clem falls from on top of the board. then they try it again and break the chairs.
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 7:18 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Thanks for the encouragement guys! I just ordered the fins. I dont know when they'll arrive. I'm hoping for the weekend, but its been my experience that I always get my goodies on monday.

I went w/ (4) 1.3's . Maybe I'll do 6 down the road, but 4 should get the job done for now.

 
By Lyle Ramsdell (sunsport) on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 8:10 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hey Scott,
Nice looking board. Too bad I didn't see this post earlier I would have hooked you up with some fins. I have built 37 board myself. And of course we started Chrome Dome selling fins. If you want some tips on building boards let me know.

Skiing made me board,
Lyle
Chrome Dome

 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 9:39 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hey thanks Lyle. 37 boards? Thats a lot. 1's tough enough, but perhaps you know a better system. Feel free to email me some pics or info.

I spent tonight trying to iron out the leak issues again. The binding holes are the culprit, so I got some rubber washers to put in between the bindings and board. I also re-coated the edges just for good measure. I'll re-test it tomorrow after everything is dry.

It appears that I didnt pay enough attention to water resistance. I was too worried about the strength and structure. I also figured it would naturally seal itself w/ all the glass and resin, but apparently I should have been more concerned about this.

If I were to do it all over again, making it water tight would have been higher on the priority list.

For some reason, I thought the screws would seal out the water for the binding holes...not true. So hopefully the rubber washers keep out the h2o.

 
By Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111) on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 9:55 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
again, if you find it a fun first wake ride and it and you survive AND you decide to not ride it again much, then seal up the holes and put some grip tape on the top and skate
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 10:15 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
word.
 
By Lyle Ramsdell (sunsport) on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 2:55 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hey Scott,
So I've made a couple of boards like the one you are making. I call them hollow core boards. They are very difficult to seal. One thing you can do is drill a hole in the tip of it, thread a 1/4-20 insert into it with silcone caulk. Then use a 1/4-20 machine screw with a o-ring to seal the hole. The hole will serve two purposes, a drain when you get water in it, you can stand it up right and allow the water out. The other thing you can do with it is push the board underwater and blow air into the hole. Bubbles will come out where ever the board has leaks.

The best way to seal around the binding holes is instead of using threaded inserts (assuming this is the way you are doing it) is to use 1/4-20 carriage bolts all the way through the board inserted from the bottom. Oversize the hole by about 1/32". When you install them glue them in place with JB weld or 30 minute epoxy. Before glueing them in place push them up through the bottom of the board and tighten them down so they make a good dent on the bottom side. Use a big flat washer so you don't dent the top side of the board. Unscrew the nut, put masking tape on the threads that are sticking out so you don't get glue on them. Pull the bolts out. Wax the washers and the nuts so they don't stick to the bolt if they get glue on them. Pull the bolt out and glue in place. Remove tape and tighten washer and nut in place.

Structurally I am going to guess you are going to have problems where the seams of your plywood come together to form the rocker. Those are pretty high stress areas on a wakeboard. I would at least go to like Tap Plastics or something and get some unidirection carbon fiber to put across those seems. When I make hollow core boards with plywood for the top and bottom the sheets are continuous and I have broke them before.

Oh and your board would look way better with some Chrome Dome fins

Skiing made me board,
Lyle
Chrome Dome

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By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 10:47 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Alright folks...the fins are installed. The board is completely sealed w/ no leaks. I tested it in the pool about 6 times to reassure that it's water tight.

I was able to solve the leaky binding hole issue by pouring some resin in the holes,then put a screw in and I kept moving the screw around so the resin didnt have a chance to setup on the screw. I also put some teflon plummers tape on the threads.

The fins went on pretty straight forward. Drill a hole all the way through, slop some resin in the holes, thread the bolt through w/ a rubber cap for a washer and whalla...a fin is installed. I dont plan on removing these, so I sealed the fin to the board w/ resin to ensure no water got in from the bottom.

A pic of how I lined them up...

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I also installed a 'plug' at the end just incase water gets enters in the future.



Here it is in it's final state ready for the lake:

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By Nick Schrein (wakeboardern1) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 11:03 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Sick bro, now test it out so we can see how it works. If it doesn't break on the first wake jump, consider it a success. I know I would.
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 12:15 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Headed to the lake right now. I'll admit, after all this work I dont know how much I wanna jump it. lol. I know its going to lay down some turns, but I really dont want to break it. We'll see how holds up...might be a gradual progression. I also havent ridden in about a month. Should be interesting.

Look for a video update later tonight.

 
By Kevin Denbroeder (stepintoliquid) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 12:35 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Good luck Scott, have fun!
 
By Nick Kondylas (homedawg678) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 12:37 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
OH MAI GAWD I CANT WAIT.

Looks sick dude.

 
By Ben Axell (hawkeye7708) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 12:59 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
All of WW is sittin here on the edge of their seats... i can't wait to see how this goes man
 
By Blake Lawrence (blake2wake) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 1:21 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
good luck...pretty inspiring
 
By Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 1:29 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post

quote:

All of WW is sittin here on the edge of their seats... i can't wait to see how this goes man




YUP!

 
By mark wilson (amark) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 2:54 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
AHH MAN THE WAITING IS KILLING ME!!!! Does anyone know how the maiden voyage went!?!?! CANT WAIT!!
 
By Conner Thurston (connerthurston) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 4:17 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
haha i just read this like whole thread im excited to see if that thing worked best of luck
 
By David Christman (lfrider92) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 5:00 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
haha. im stoked to see how this turns out. i cant wait
 
By Sander (tripsw) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 5:32 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Cool project!
Place your bets all; is he editing and uploading the video as we speak.... or did he kill himself on the first jump?!

 
By Steve - O (misteve) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 5:44 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
tic toc... tic toc...
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 5:55 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Just got home...editing. Hang in there.
 
By David Christman (lfrider92) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 5:59 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
SICK!
 
By Nick Kondylas (homedawg678) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 6:03 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
JEEEZEY PEEZEY !
 
By Chris M (chrism4668) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 6:38 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
cant be long now :D
 
By Tom Adams (gunnertom4593) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 6:39 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
ok the suspense is killing me (pretty sure its not only me). Give us the News Already!!
 
By Nick Kondylas (homedawg678) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 6:39 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
IM DYING
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 6:44 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
You guys are going to kill me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16bKI2aZ33A

 
By David Christman (lfrider92) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 6:46 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
YOU FUC!@%&$)(#@$#@() A@!#)&*$)#@( WHOLE!!!!!!!!!! lmfao. come on man!!! ive beeen sitting here hitting refresh hahahhaha
 
By Chris M (chrism4668) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 6:47 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Did you even ride it or nothing yet?
 
By Tom Adams (gunnertom4593) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 6:50 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
NOOOOOO....
 
By Nick Schrein (wakeboardern1) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 6:51 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
He wimped out.

Fool, I was trunking it at 64. Quit complainin!

 
By Nick Kondylas (homedawg678) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 6:55 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
IM CRYING........
 
By Tom Adams (gunnertom4593) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 7:01 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I had a great deal of respect for you for building your own board. But that respect faded and disappeared in the past 10 minutes...
 
By Bryce P. (macanudo247) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 7:05 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
100 degree rule... for shame
 
By Nick Kondylas (homedawg678) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 7:15 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
What is the 100 degree rule ?
 
By Bryce P. (macanudo247) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 7:24 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Air temp plus the water temp equals over 100 your good to go. We were out two weeks ago in 58 degrees
 
By Nick Kondylas (homedawg678) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 7:27 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Oh I understand now.
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 7:36 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
So....

Water temp/air temp had nothing to do w/ the end result today. You'll notice in the second to last pic, I had my wet suit at my hips under the shirt.

I was all suited up, ready to go and something happened w/ the boat. We put it in gear and it started vibrating funny. Had to call it a day.

So....that being said if anyone here in phx wants to give me a pull tomorrow or this week, I'll take off work to get this done. Otherwise it's lookin like a post holiday adventure.

Trust me...I'm just as disappointed as you.

 
By Nick Schrein (wakeboardern1) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 7:43 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I will steal a boat and drive down there tomorrow. Screw exams, and the concept of driving across the country in a day.
 
By Nick Kondylas (homedawg678) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 7:45 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Hahah speaking of exams I should have been studying for one but instead this thread has kept me distracted
 
By Nick Schrein (wakeboardern1) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 7:46 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Dude, I should have been studying for a math exam I have to take tomorrow. I have been lurking here, facebook, and call of duty. I'm a terrible student.
 
By David B. (dabell) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 7:48 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
hahaha

Nice.... Sorry to hear about the boat but I have been looking forward to the results like everyone else.

 
By Nick Kondylas (homedawg678) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 7:51 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Wow Nick talk about the exact same thing. Except I got an English one tomorrow. I am more of a Halo guy though.
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 8:38 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Ya...today sucked. Bummer. This isnt the end of it though. I will ride this thing.
 
By Sander (tripsw) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 9:31 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Bummer! Nice boat, any idea what was wrong with it? Fix it and ride it! Tomorrow!
 
By Steve - O (misteve) on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 10:18 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Ha! I finished last week!
 
By Drew Gibson (tribute) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 3:35 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
nick kondylas: what grade r u in?
 
By Austin (shaggystud06) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 6:03 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I just read the whole thread procrastinating on exams... and I just died a little on the inside. When is this thing going down???

Sick job by the way

 
By Paul Nichols (pnichols) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 6:08 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Someone needs to give this guy a pull.
 
By Nick Schrein (wakeboardern1) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 6:21 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Agreed Paul. Don't make me come down there with a stolen boat. It'll only cost me like, 200 dollars in gas... Which I'll probably steal when I steal the boat
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 7:11 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I've made some calls to try to get out this week. It might happen on thurs or friday morning depending on the crew, but I can't promise anything.

I'm jones'n bad to test it out. I wanna see how those big square rails rip!

 
By Sander (tripsw) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 7:28 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Just for the sake of coolness, do a huge Raley or catch a double up first time you hit a wake with it and catch that on photo/film ofcourse. Suppose you'd just make a tiny little careful w2k-jump or something, and it would break... Wouldn't that just suck?!
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 7:47 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Ha! yes it would... However, if I made a lil careful wake jump and it snaps, I will probably still be able to walk.

I was considering going all out for the first jump, but this thing's a tank and is either going to plow straight through the wake and snap, or buck me outta control and I'll be rollin the windows up like a fool.

I think this is my plan...

1. get up
2. make some turns
3. do some ollies
4. Inspect for damage/injuries/splinters
5. 1 wake it
6. w2w then see #4
7. some sort of grab.
8. Go big.
9. Pick up the pieces
10.Cry.


 
By Nick Kondylas (homedawg678) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 8:01 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
1. Make Board With Pocket Knife
2. Ride it After Perfecting Shape etc
3. Get it on Video / Pictures
4. ??????
5. Profit!

 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 8:31 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Maybe I'll skip your steps 2 through 4.

1 signature series hand crafted 'Log' for sale. No guarantees made or implied. No warranty.


$10,000.00 USD

Any takers?

 
By Ben Axell (hawkeye7708) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 8:50 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Toss it up on E-Bay as some "Great, New, State of the Art, Innovation" that you want to release upon the world of Wakeboarding. All you need is at minimum $500,000 in a Swedish unmarked bank account, and you'll release the blueprints to the highest bidder.
 
By Eubanks (eubanks01) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 9:16 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
So much build up! I just hope it doesn't break when you ollie off the platform! That would be the biggest buzz killer ever.
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 11:01 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/boa/960279571.html
 
By Nick Kondylas (homedawg678) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 11:07 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Win.
 
By Dave Broderick (nosebleed) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 11:25 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Now you just need to add your accepted methods of payment.
Western Union, Moneygram, wire transfer, cashier check, money order, shipping, escrow, or any promise of transaction protection/certification/guarantee.

Now ride the thing

 
By Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 11:33 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Dave Broderick,

you have relatives near Page AZ?

there is a guy i wakeboard with from time to time with the same name as you?

 
By Dave Broderick (nosebleed) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 12:12 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
It's possible I do have family in AZ
 
By C. R. (crushing76) on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 5:44 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
the craigslist add has already been flagged for removal?
 
By malibu (malibuboats4) on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 8:13 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
alright seriously.., whens it going down, i've been looking forward to this for a while now...
 
By B Nall (bnall) on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 8:53 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Ha! ur prob gonna die. but at least at that water temp maybe you won't feel it.
 
By Scott (scottnaz) on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 10:30 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Scott - I'm typing up the liability waiver for you to sign, then we'll head out.
 
By David Christman (lfrider92) on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 11:07 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
"Just for the sake of coolness, do a huge Raley or catch a double up first time you hit a wake with it and catch that on photo/film ofcourse. Suppose you'd just make a tiny little careful w2k-jump or something, and it would break... Wouldn't that just suck?!"

HAHAHA agreed!!!!

 
By rick (justcoz5) on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 9:11 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
1. Strap on a pair of balls and go out their and ride.

I mean jeez, this thread is so overblown. I am glad you made your own board, but for goodness sake, strap the thing on and go ride, or mount it on your wall and lets end this thread. The fact that you went out there already didn't ride and still made a video is ridiculous.

 
By Nick Kondylas (homedawg678) on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 9:37 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Are you kidding? This is the most exciting thing around here during the winter.

(Message edited by homedawg678 on December 22, 2008)

 
By Nick Schrein (wakeboardern1) on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 9:41 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Wow rick, way to be a um, dick. haha.

I mean seriously dude? He said the boat wasn't working right, so he didn't ride it. That's not something that he's really able to control. Chill out bro.

 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 8:07 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
You guys are crackin me up! I missed the pre-holiday window w/ the boat mishap, so it's lookin like at least another week before I'll have a free day. I'll get it done as soon as possible though...

Cant have any fun over the interwebz huh Rick?

 
By Mark C (kottonm0uthking4) on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 7:00 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
scott... i will pay you to ditch whatever you need to ditch to do this tomorrow. its all i want for christmas
 
By Flight007 (poser007) on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 7:47 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
You live in AZ and cant find anyone to give you a pull?
 
By AG (martinique) on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 8:39 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Scott...if you need a pull I have time next week, let me know
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 10:56 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Sorry guys...I'm unfortunately surrounded by 2ft of snow in good ol WI currently soo I wont be able to make your christmas wishes come true till another week or so. AG or Scott, I may have to take you up on that if you have the waiver's ready. haha.
 
By Kyle Marriott (kyle_m) on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 8:05 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
any new news?????
 
By Ben Axell (hawkeye7708) on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 8:10 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Wisconsin! Woot Woot!
 
By 8tens (Ben Kerran) (rukie) on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 9:44 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Just read this thread (hilarious). You can definitely tell it's winter :-). Scott-really cool to make your own board. Can't wait for the video!!
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 10:46 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
News: Back in AZ nursing an injured leg....nothing to do w/riding. Might give it a go next weekend.
 
By Eubanks (eubanks01) on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 10:56 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I think you should "Pay it Forward" and ship this Log out to other people to ride...you big tease! :-)
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 11:01 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
^^funny guy!
 
By Andrew loffgren (loffgren) on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 4:53 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I'll ride it
 
By Mike Klarenbeek (wakecrzy2000) on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 6:21 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
maybe all this is a sign that u shouldn't ride it, i would consider giving it to someone else and letting them test it.
 
By Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111) on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 8:28 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
^^ lawsuit following ^^
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 6:53 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
News flash:

This is going down tomorrow. I also just got a new R1, so this will be the de-virginizing of 2 boards in one day. Here's some side by sides for comparison. I'm not sayin that the Log is anything like the 1, but just for reference:



Upload
Upload

 
By Jon D (jdwake1) on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 7:02 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
lol it's amazing how close that is have fun man
 
By Rich (dohboy) on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 7:25 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Thanks for reviving your post. I was trying to find it last night to ask about it. Post some pics of it in action.
 
By Blaine Coury (krazywake) on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 8:00 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
How I missed this thread, I'm not too sure... Bon Voyage Scott! Thanks for calling to ask if I wanted to head out tomorrow, wish I had known about this sooner we would have found you a pull for sure! I'm truly bummed I don't get to be behind the lens for this one. I'll be scouring our cabin at sunrise for internet access tomorrow evening to look for updates, but at the very least shoot me a text when you get off the lake... or out of the hospital. haha
 
By Nick Kondylas (homedawg678) on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 8:26 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
" I'm not sayin that the Log is anything like the 1, but just for reference: "

You're right, the log is better

Just kidding

 
By Eubanks (eubanks01) on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 7:38 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I agree Nick. I'm fully prepared to see the R1 for sale in the classifieds section tomorrow after the Log absolutely dominates on the water.
 
By Ben Axell (hawkeye7708) on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 7:39 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
The LOG looks like it might have less swing weight....
 
By jr (romes) on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 9:01 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
or once you get it started spinning you wont be able to stop it...
 
By Peter Sharp (gobigorgohome) on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 9:19 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I have been asked to be part of the maiden voyage. This momentous water-based news story will get more coverage than the US Airways water landing yesterday.

Watch this space.

 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 4:07 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Just got home. I'm in one piece. Stay tuned.
 
By Chris Phelps (cpizzle) on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 4:19 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Can you give us a quick debrief at least?? Why the teasers?? Sheesh!
 
By Chris Phelps (cpizzle) on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 4:20 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
This better be good!!
 
By Zach Hamilton (zdhmoto331) on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 4:20 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
i agree this is the one post i actually follow an uve dragged it out WAY to long
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 4:21 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Great Success. I have a few things to take care of tonight, so I dont know if I'll be able to get a film together today, but we had a blast!
 
By Rich (dohboy) on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 6:15 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Oh man, dont you think we've waited long enough? Hurry with the pics.
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 6:32 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Here's a shot w/ my buddy riding. We didnt take many still pics...but here's a glimps of proof (even though it just looks like another board) ...until I can scrap together a movie.


Upload

 
By Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111) on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 7:33 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
nice!

so how did it ride?
slow?
super bucking on the pop? (but not necessarily high I imagine, but 'could be wrong)

 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 12:07 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
The highly anticipated video, finnally!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbBwXGhfJOc

Alright, so here's my review:

It rode just like any other board. It had a 'sweet spot' when making your cut towards the wake...too much edge and it would bog pretty bad, but if you took a gradual turn it held just fine. It rode a little slow, as to be expected. It had descent kick off the wake, I got bucked a few times and rolled the windows up. It would take a few more sessions to get the hang of it, but overall it was quite ridable. The biggest downside was the weight. On the rolls, I was tryin with all my might to get that thing around, but it wasnt happening. (I have them on lock ussually) On the landings it dragged pretty bad...like it put the brakes on when you hit the water. It rode pretty loose, as pete was toying with in the video. The tail felt a little squirly when you're just cruisin in the flats.

It was structurally solid w/ what seemed like no flex. It took some digger falls too. The paint on the rails chipped off from the impact/flex on takeoffs and landings I presume. It did take on some water, which we emptied inbetween riders. All in all, it was fun to ride and it held together just fine.

I didnt mean to drag this out for a month, and I apologize, but w/ the holidays, thats kinda the way it ended up. rick (justcoz5) you may now relax and go back to reading about rope length, vests and boat speed.

(Message edited by phxwakeguy on January 17, 2009)

 
By David Christman (lfrider92) on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 12:29 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Congrats scott! thats awesome. i bet you where beyond stoked. im glad to hear it was a success. what are you making the next one ;D
 
By Peter Sharp (gobigorgohome) on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 12:53 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Good work Scott, I was excited to be part of it and honoured to ride that bad boy.

Quote: 'rick (justcoz5) you may now relax and go back to reading about rope length, vests and boat speed.
'
I'm not really into web speak, but I think the phrase is 'owned'.

 
By Kevin Hoye (wakebrdr38) on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 2:39 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
that 210 is a heck of a wake to test it on... i like and if it can survive the kick and landings from that wake i think it could handle a lot
 
By Ben Axell (hawkeye7708) on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 8:47 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Way to get that board out there! That's gotta be a pretty sweet to actually put something together like that and come out with something relatively functional. It's pretty ballin' man!
 
By Jay T. (wakebrdjay) on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 9:20 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
I have to say it turned out pretty sweet.It took some good poundings when the one guy kept casing the wake.
 
By Sander (tripsw) on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 9:37 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Haha niiice! Log rules.
 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 10:54 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Thanks fellas! I'm definitely stoked. It was a pretty rewarding project. I'll have to think about if I'm going to give it another go or not...it was a ton of work, but I'm happy with the result.
 
By Peter Sharp (gobigorgohome) on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 7:54 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Quote: 'It took some good poundings when the one guy kept casing the wake.'

Glad to be of service! Tho the board was so heavy by the time I was riding it (I rode it third and it was getting more & more waterlogged) that it was pretty tough to get decent air.

 
By David Christman (lfrider92) on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 9:12 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
"Glad to be of service! Tho the board was so heavy by the time I was riding it (I rode it third and it was getting more & more waterlogged) that it was pretty tough to get decent air."

--------------------------------

excuses excuses.

 
By Kyle Marriott (kyle_m) on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 12:26 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
now we need to have the pay it forward log edition
 
By Roddyrod (wakeslife) on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 12:40 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
yeah and whoever breaks it has to build a new one
 
By Anthony Ciardelli (liquidforcefan) on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 12:43 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
Send some pics and info about it to a board company, maybe they'll give you a job and some better resources.
 
By Dave Broderick (nosebleed) on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 12:51 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
That is awesome congrats on your ride.
 
By Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111) on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 1:16 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post
And to think that if you had built that like 10 or so years ago it probably would have changed history for wakeboarding.

wake has come a long way i think

congrats on the maiden voyage

 
By Scott (phxwakeguy) on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 7:46 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
I rode the One after riding the Log. I think a more viable use for the log would be to use it for your first session as a warm up tool. Then switch to a regular board and you'll take things way bigger and faster. Kind of like using a weighted bat in the 'on deck' circle for baseball. *triggered thought for new product

Either the new 1 has something drastically different about it, or the log prepped me, but I felt like the pop was ridiculous in comparison to last years white 'one'.

As for a job in the industry, that would be a dream come true, however w/ the current state of the econ, I doubt thats a viable option right now.

To pay it forward would be a descent chunk of change for shipping. I'd have to guess this thing comes in at twice what a regular board weighs...plus the liability.

 
By jason callen (westsidarider) on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 8:54 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
i am willing to bet that it wasnt the actuall weight of the board messing with you. with the rocker the way it is on that board and having a flat spot with a very drastic change in the rocker line the board is more than likyly incredibly slow, thus the hard time getting the board around on your roll and the landings where the board seemed to stop rather quickly.

good to see she survived a couple rides to ride another day

 
By pete c (saceone) on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 10:35 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
it's gotta be a 210 thing..

I'm building a wakeskate and I own a 210TE

good stuff man

 
By Eubanks (eubanks01) on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 11:49 am:    Edit Post Delete Post
Finally, I can go on with my life.

Good job Dude. Thanks for sharing and helping pass some of the winter time.

 

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